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Bill: Honouring mother and baby
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union of Progressive Ulama
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2102
Description[?]:
| An opinion poll was held among the citizens of the Sultanate of Al'Badara. The subject of the opinion poll was The right to perform an abortion for a pregnant woman. When asked what their opinions were, the following choices were made:Percentage Choice 20.20% All abortions are illegal. 29.12% Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies. 20.65% Abortion is allowed during the first trimester. 17.02% Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters. 13.01% Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy. Abortions are to be permitted only in cases of medical emergency, to save the mother's life. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Proposed: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:28:54, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Purity Party | To | Debating the Honouring mother and baby |
| Message | We strongly support this. |
| Date | 15:30:15, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Socialist Party | To | Debating the Honouring mother and baby |
| Message | A "Baby" isn't a "baby" until birth. There is no medical evidence to suggest the fetus is "alive" before birth. A woman's body is hers and hers alone. What basis do we have to dictate whether or not a woman can make a choice about her body? The answer is simple: There is no basis whatsoever for anyone besides the woman to decide whether or not she wants to bear the fetus. Forcing a woman to endure pregnancy is nothing short of modern day slavery. While my party has no seats yet, we strongly oppose this proposal, and we implore those with seats to take a stand and defend a woman's right to her own body. |
| Date | 15:31:09, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Socialist Party | To | Debating the Honouring mother and baby |
| Message | A "Baby" isn't a "baby" until birth. There is no medical evidence to suggest the fetus is "alive" before birth. A woman's body is hers and hers alone. What basis do we have to dictate whether or not a woman can make a choice about her body? The answer is simple: There is no basis whatsoever for anyone besides the woman to decide whether or not she wants to bear the fetus. Forcing a woman to endure pregnancy is nothing short of modern day slavery. While my party has no seats yet, we strongly oppose this proposal, and we implore those with seats to take a stand and defend a woman's right to her own body. |
| Date | 15:34:34, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Socialist Party | To | Debating the Honouring mother and baby |
| Message | *Somehow my message was posted twice. I apologize for that. |
| Date | 19:54:26, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Coalition | To | Debating the Honouring mother and baby |
| Message | We are against this bill. |
| Date | 20:50:06, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Socialist Party | To | Debating the Honouring mother and baby |
| Message | The Imperial Socialist Party thanks the Sultan's Loyalist Party for opposing this God-Awful piece of legislation. |
| Date | 08:34:24, August 23, 2005 CET | From | Purity Party | To | Debating the Honouring mother and baby |
| Message | This piece of legislation protects the lives of the unborn. The Imperial Socialist Party claim that until a baby is born they are not alive - this is patently untrue. Naturally, babies which are carried to term are carried far beyond the necessary point of viability. If they could survive on their own outside a womb it is abusrd to say they are not alive. It is nonsense to suggest that the spark of life comes when a baby first enters air instead of its mother. We believe in the sanctity of human life, and condemn the evil, wicked murderers who wish loose women to kill at will. |
| Date | 17:30:27, August 24, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Socialist Party | To | Debating the Honouring mother and baby |
| Message | "Protecting the lives of the unborn" is a contradiction. If the unborn are alive, they'd be born. There is no scientific evidence to support the claim a group of cells, or a fetus constitutes life. Forcing women to carry an unwanted fetus is nothing short of slavery. The Imperial Socialist Party believes in the sanctity of life as well. We believe in protecting the life of the living. We oppose the Death Penalty in all cases. A Fetus is not alive. It cannot think, it cannot walk, it cannot speak. It is nothing but an object within the Mother until birth, when it becomes alive. The burden of proof lies on the shoulder of those trying prove a fetus is alive, not those protecting the rights of women to discard an unwanted fetus. |
| Date | 12:14:25, August 28, 2005 CET | From | Al'Badaran Bolshevik Movement (SC) | To | Debating the Honouring mother and baby |
| Message | This is an infringement on a woman's life and privacy. We are against this and would strongly support a counter-proposal, that abortion be allowed throughout the whole course of the pregnancy. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 63 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 74 |
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