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Bill: Right On, Brothers and Sisters!
Details
Submitted by[?]: Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2484
Description[?]:
| Freedom, we won't let you down... |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Current: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Proposed: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The use of cannabis for medicinal purposes.
Old value:: Cannabis is legal as a sedative for patients in pain.
Current: Cannabis is legal as a sedative for patients in pain.
Proposed: The legality of medicinal cannabis is established by local governments.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is only allowed in private homes and clubs.
Current: Smoking is legal everywhere, at the discretion of the property owner, but is illegal in government-owned buildings.
Proposed: Smoking is legal everywhere, at the discretion of the property owner, but is illegal in government-owned buildings.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: Only adults may purchase tobacco.
Current: Only adults may purchase tobacco.
Proposed: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco products but everyone is allowed to buy them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:55:19, November 09, 2007 CET | From | Kapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei | To | Debating the Right On, Brothers and Sisters! |
| Message | (1) ADAMANTLY opposed!!! Abortion is the deliberate murder of a pre-born little GIRL--[btw, nobody seems to mention the fact that the GIRL that dies in abortion is losing her illusive RIGHT to CHOOSE to have an abortion]--or boy since scientific evidence has verified that life unequivocally begins at CONCEPTION; the CWFP can present the "conception evidence" at request. (2) (a) The CWFP's position is that we should have a 100% FREE MARKET private health care system with competition to ensure that the quality of healthcare goes UP while the price goes DOWN!!! (b) Second, the State should compensate poor and Middle Class Likatonians who are currently making BELOW 11,429 LIK--[OOC: for practical purposes, 11,429 LIK is the equivalent to $100,000 and/or 50,000 Pounds]--in ANY private health insurance that they choose to purchase. (c) Finally, while the system should be 100% Free Market, we vigorously support a comprehensive "Patients' Bill of Rights" that REGULATES the industry for accountability purposes. (3) (a) ADAMANTLY oppose!!! While we are vigorously in support of the "War on Drugs," we must passionately assert that it is NOT the perogative (duty) of government to prescribe medical treatment to patients at the expense of Medical Experts (doctors). (b) OOC: in fact, was anyone aware of the documented historical fact that Pres. Uylesses S. Grant of the United States was actually CURED of his Thyroid Cancer b/c his doctor prescribed a minuit dose of cocaine??? Therefore, I believe that while recreational drugs should be BANNED, if a Doctor prescibes an "illegal substance" and it is administered by a Licensed Pharmacist, that substance can be consumed for medicinal purposes. (4) [IC] WOW!!! This is great, kindergarden kids lighting up a pack of Newport 100s during recess(LMAO)!!!? (5) You might have a RIGHT to smoke a cigarette and pollute YOUR lungs, but you do NOT have "right" to smoke and pollute MY lungs and the [publically-owned] oxygenated air that I breath!! In other words, second-hand smoke POLLUTES the air. |
| Date | 15:11:44, November 09, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Right On, Brothers and Sisters! |
| Message | The CWFP are still wrong. 'Murder' is only the correct term if the procedure is 1) illegal and 2) kills 'a human being'. Neither can be demonstrated in the law as suggested. If a person has a twin that is absorbed into their flesh, and is 'living' parasitically on them... is it wrong to attempt to separate the twins? Would it be wrong if the parasitical twin had been born without a brain? |
| Date | 21:01:07, November 09, 2007 CET | From | Kapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei | To | Debating the Right On, Brothers and Sisters! |
| Message | No it is not wrong to separate simese twins, but your argument is non-sensical. The twin does NOT die as a result of the operation. That has nothing to, anyway, with the merit of the argument that the fetus is a human being or life begins at conception. Rather, it is just a case of a GENETIC ANOMALY: twins that didn't properly develop in the womb. |
| Date | 21:23:07, November 09, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Workers' Party and CTUL List | To | Debating the Right On, Brothers and Sisters! |
| Message | We are glad to hear that the CWFP supports the nationalisation of air. We hadn't previously considered such policy, but we will now be haste to add it to our agenda. |
| Date | 06:15:31, November 11, 2007 CET | From | Kapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei | To | Debating the Right On, Brothers and Sisters! |
| Message | NOBODY owns the air since nobody can COPYRIGHT it!!! |
| Date | 06:36:05, November 11, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Right On, Brothers and Sisters! |
| Message | So ownership can only exist where there is copyright? An interesting argument. We shall be sending repomen to the CWFP estates to repossess their 'uncopyrighted' computers, datafiles, desks... secretaries... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 34 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 57 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 9 |
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| Random quote: "I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan, quoted in New York Times, 22 September 1980 |