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Bill: Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One

Details

Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 2484

Description[?]:

It is integral to this proposal that the following conditions be borne in mind:

A Union must support of at least one member - that is the only limitation on numbers. Thus - an individual can claim Union status for the purpose of compliance with this law.

Unions must record 'minutes', legislative actions, industrial actions, corporate and political sponsorships, etc - regardless of size. Obviously - the scope of this task will vary depending upon membership.

As an adjunct to the idea that one individual can be a union, the ability to coordinate secondary strike actions is essential.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:46:25, November 09, 2007 CET
FromDemocratic Workers' Party and CTUL List
ToDebating the Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One
MessageThis receives nothing short of our 110% support.

Date17:13:51, November 09, 2007 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One
MessageIt is important that everyone is aware of the flavour text of this bill - since the pre-amble is just as importnat as the clauses themselves. We may have found a way to reconcile the politics of the Red Revolution with the politics of the AM RLP.

If so - it is a geat day in Likatonia.

Date21:15:18, November 09, 2007 CET
FromKapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei
ToDebating the Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One
Message
(1) How is this a "great day in Likatonia" when this bill (literally) kills FREEDOM & LIBERTY??? In other words, it may NOT be the strategic interests of the WORKERS (by majority vote) to join a Union. [NOTE: However, it must specifically noted that the CWFP supports VOLUNTARY unionization but NOT the so-called "right to work" laws that enable ONE "nutcase," if you will, to refuse to join the union if 51% of the workforce voted for it.]

(2) Again, why are we going to allow the teachers at Likatonian Socialist University in LIBERAL Gokitan shut down the ENTIRE education system for kids learning socialist doctrine when the Capitalist-leaning (CWFP) Autoworkers in CONSERVATIVE Meria are striking??? We believe that workers should strike ONLY for their own pay and conditions. However, if it is THAT important to the teachers to be concerned with the pay for autoworkers, then they can just easily put those conditions in their own individual contract.

Date21:25:34, November 09, 2007 CET
FromKapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei
ToDebating the Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One
Message
[OOC]:

"So this is how LIBERTY DIES. With THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE!!!"
---Padmé Amidala, Star Wars--Episode III: Revenge of the Sith---

Date21:34:53, November 09, 2007 CET
FromDemocratic Workers' Party and CTUL List
ToDebating the Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One
Message1) Re-read the pre-amble.

2) First of all, we can assure the CWFP that the Union representing teaching staff at the LSU will not be participating in a secondary-strike to support capitalist gestures. What kind of a society does the CWFP wish to promote if Unions are to be concerned only in their own pay and conditions? It is illogical to prohibit Unions from supporting one another, as there are NO parts of society that are individual or autonomous. If workers in one arm of the social body are harmed, the pain will be felt throughout the body. It is not worth even mentioning how ridiculous it is to suggest the LSU staff negotiate contracts with the University that dictates the pay and conditions of employment at the Meria Motor Works. That is impractical and entirely flawed. The LSU plays no part in the employment of MMW workers; how can the LSU set terms for the MMW's employment policy? The workers may only offer GENUINE support through sympathetic action.

Date21:49:32, November 09, 2007 CET
FromKapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei
ToDebating the Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One
Message
First and foremost, we NATURALLY (of course) agree that it is IMPRACTICAL for the teachers' union to set terms and conditions for the workers' pay in their contracts. The logic was more sarcastic. Nevertheless, it shows actually how impractical "sympathetic" strikes are: a bunch of RAG-TAG union workers in Meria or wherever can SHUT DOWN the entire nation out of "sympathy." In fact, it would be MORE practical for the workers to do as I said and put those concerns in their individual contract.

[OOC]: I NEVER said that the teaching staff at the LSU would participate in a "sympathy strike" to support capitalist GESTURES; rather, what I said was that they would strike in sympathy for WORKERS who have capitalist political views and ideology that voted for me in the election; the sympathy strike is NOT for "political purposes" but for the workers to have a fair wage.

Date21:51:16, November 09, 2007 CET
FromKapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei
ToDebating the Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One
Message
[IC]: we are ADAMANTLY opposed to unions be supported by "one" "nutcase," so to speak. If a union is voted on by 51% (democracy) of the workforce, that is the ONLY time they can have a union.

Date12:23:06, November 10, 2007 CET
FromDemocratic Workers' Party and CTUL List
ToDebating the Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One
MessageWe do not understand at all what the CWFP are proposing - that Unions be set up on basis of individual workplaces, and only when more than half of the employees of said workplace vote to have one?

Date00:20:26, November 11, 2007 CET
FromPermissive Social Union
ToDebating the Whiteflag Agenda - A Union of One
MessageIn the spirit of national goodwill, we are going to support this.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 63

no
  

Total Seats: 28

abstain
  

Total Seats: 9


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