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Bill: Expansion of Arms Sales
Details
Submitted by[?]: Capitalist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2100
Description[?]:
| Let's free our defense industry and allow them to expand and win contracts from abroad which will make them richer and more powerful. We wish to allow our industries to sell all conventional arms that have been superceded so that we have the best and most up to date arms from our defense industries but our industry can still sell weapons abroad. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Current: The government allows arms to be sold only to close allies.
Proposed: The government allows conventional arms to be exported freely.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:46:50, August 23, 2005 CET | From |  Sotsial-Demokraticheskaya Partiya | To | Debating the Expansion of Arms Sales |
| Message | We don't support this bill. |
| Date | 18:12:33, August 23, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Expansion of Arms Sales |
| Message | Now THAT is an arms bill that makes sense. TLP votes YES |
| Date | 19:14:34, August 23, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Expansion of Arms Sales |
| Message | Yes, it seems sensible policy to let companies sell arms to countries like North Korea, Zimbabwe, India, Pakistan, freely with no regulations, just for profit. That won't cause wars or anything. And it certainly isn't the sort of thing that lead to the slave trade, and the obliteration of many African tribes. And of course its never been seen that a countries weapons have been used against themselves, and its out of the question thats even more likely with the deregulation. This has got to be one of the least ethical, worst thought out bills the DSP has ever heard, and will pass over our dead bodies. |
| Date | 02:34:21, August 24, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Expansion of Arms Sales |
| Message | Yes, and relying on government for ethical foreign policy seems like a great idea, especially when it's the kind of government that thinks that the agricultural subsidies are ethical. I'll take my chances with the private sector, thanks. |
| Date | 02:37:31, August 24, 2005 CET | From | Radical Conservative Party | To | Debating the Expansion of Arms Sales |
| Message | It would be good for the economy. But I'm not trusting of the other countries. But true to the RCP's wiki page, we are here for the economy. The RCP votes YES. |
| Date | 09:52:19, August 24, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Expansion of Arms Sales |
| Message | It is often said that the way you can tell if a person should be allowed a gun is if they try to buy them. If they do, they shouldn't be allowed them. This goes for countries as well as people. Companies often don't have the political view that the government does, and can't see all the effects, long and short term. They simply cannot be trusted to make sensible decisions as to who to sell weapons to, from pistols to fighter jets to intercontinetal ballistic missles, completely unregulated! Why do you think no responsible RL countries have done this? Because its crazy! It'll fuel war. You have got to regulate arms sales or you'll be seeing coup d'etats all over the world as small bands of militia get their hands on the latest weapons technologies and overthrow their governments. We have got to be responsible about this sort of thing, or the world will go to hell in a handbasket! We will happily post or vote for a bill repealing farm subsidies if parties ditch their support for this one. This will cause infitinitely more problems than that ever could. |
| Date | 15:46:20, August 24, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Expansion of Arms Sales |
| Message | DSP, this bill will pass. But we would be willing to propose (and vote for) a bill in the future requiring government approval for arms sales (preferably on a nation-by-nation basis) if you would be willing to vote for a bill abolishing all farm subsidies. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 372 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 182 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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