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Bill: Renumeration of ministers of religion
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pithy Party-Liberty League
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2486
Description[?]:
Being a minister of religion is a job. Why do we not allow them to be paid? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:21:31, November 13, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | For it. In order to achieve a secular state, we mustn't get our hands into religion. |
Date | 18:48:00, November 13, 2007 CET | From | Pertetuum Kazulia | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | They shall receive no remuneration because they choose to spread that nonsense they call religion. It's the price they pay. |
Date | 19:15:25, November 13, 2007 CET | From | Middleton Party | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | We also agree with this bill. |
Date | 20:29:44, November 13, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | no! |
Date | 21:59:18, November 13, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | If people are willing to pay ministers of religion, why should we forbid that. This is actually the price they have to pay for following them. |
Date | 21:59:56, November 13, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | Of course we don't expect a totalitarian party to understand that. |
Date | 22:00:17, November 13, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | OOC: The last two posts were directed to the Perpetuum Kazulia. |
Date | 23:33:57, November 13, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | its because why should you have a job of forcing people to belive in something |
Date | 03:27:44, November 14, 2007 CET | From | Pithy Party-Liberty League | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | Think of it this way: Right now ministers aren't earning a wage, and "All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government," so right now, in effect, the state is paying the ministers. |
Date | 11:47:41, November 14, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | To the LSP: We hardly think that ministers of religion force anyone to believe in something. Normally, they just help those who do believe in something to widen their belief, or to perform rituals according to their belief. And even if they try to spread their belief, they certainly don't force the people. |
Date | 12:25:13, November 14, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | to pithy: I understand I will vote yes to GKK: really? just look at hte pope. |
Date | 16:16:31, November 15, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the Renumeration of ministers of religion |
Message | OOC: to LSP: Please, don't bring the real world into particracy without showing it by using OOC. And yes, if I look at the pope, I don't see him forcing people to believe something. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 512 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 178 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 60 |
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