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Bill: Change of various titles
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pertetuum Kazulia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2488
Description[?]:
| Nomenclaturic change |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Premierminister
Current: Statsminister / Pääministeri
Proposed: Statssjef
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: President av republikken
Current: Hans Majestet Magnus, Kasulernes Konge, og hennes Majestet Astrid, Kasulernes Dronning; Akseli ja Soila, Agathan Suuriruhtinas ja Suuriruhtinatar (His Majesty Magnus, King of the Kazulians and Her Majesty Astrid, Queen of the Kazulians; Akseli and Soila, Grand Duke and Grand Duchess of Agatha)
Proposed: Statssjef
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The official title of the legislative assembly.
Old value:: Nasjonal Samlingen
Current: Storting
Proposed: Riksdag
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The national motto.
Old value:: Demokratisk sosialisme alltid!
Current: Alt for Kazulmark.
Proposed: Alle Sjelen Framover (All souls forward)
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:00:43, November 14, 2007 CET | From |  CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | I dont think we should use "souls because it has to do with religion |
| Date | 22:55:45, November 14, 2007 CET | From | Pithy Party-Liberty League | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | Are the head of government and head of state going to be the same person? |
| Date | 02:46:38, November 15, 2007 CET | From | Pertetuum Kazulia | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | @Pithy: They are, already. @LSP: See the corruption of religion manifest itself in your sentence. Since when does religion really "own" the word souls? I quite like the word there and can't think of a better word... |
| Date | 16:20:17, November 15, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | We should keep the names Scandinavian, even if we change'd their meaning. And we don't like partyleader at all. |
| Date | 20:01:01, November 15, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | because souls are sprit-like beings inside everyone and thats religous |
| Date | 20:18:04, November 15, 2007 CET | From | Pertetuum Kazulia | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | Alright, how about Statssjef, Leder or Fyrste for the title of the head of state & government? Riksdag or no change for the leg. assembly. And motto: All Sjelen Framover (All souls forward) |
| Date | 20:19:10, November 15, 2007 CET | From | Pertetuum Kazulia | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | I stick with souls, no matter how "religious" some may think it is... I still think people can have souls even if they do not believe in any church or book. |
| Date | 01:00:31, November 16, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | yes, but it is a philothical and spirtal idea and not everyone belives in it so its wrong to have it in a tital |
| Date | 01:02:58, November 16, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | I would recomend "the gates to utopa" or "the gates to paradice" |
| Date | 15:30:28, November 17, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | Because everyone believes in a paradice... to Perpetuum: Allright with me, if you'd exchange the actual proposals with the Scandinavian ones, we'll vote for it. |
| Date | 18:25:50, November 17, 2007 CET | From | Science and Environment Party | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | We are for the third and 4:th but against calling premierminister and president the same thing! That must be unconstitutional. |
| Date | 20:08:33, November 17, 2007 CET | From | Pertetuum Kazulia | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | @ Science and Environment Party: Actually, it's not. They are the same person in our constitution. |
| Date | 22:05:09, November 19, 2007 CET | From | Science and Environment Party | To | Debating the Change of various titles |
| Message | Yes that was our point! The whole point of a rapublic is balanced power sources. With the president being the same as the premier that balance is lost. And obviously the majority if the parties think that it is ok to place all power in one hand. Is the next step to appoint the chairman of the high court to the same person as well? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 508 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 61 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 181 |
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