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Bill: Balance Budget COMPROMISE Act of 2487
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2487
Description[?]:
| Dear Distinguished Members of the Convocation: The AM Radical Libertarian Party recently pointed out that there was small surplus in the budget. Our views on spending the surplus are relatively simple and cut n' dry in order to create JOBS for millions of POOR citizens in the Axis Mundi Likatonia Res Publica: (1) RAISE the Luxury Tax that wealthy Lukatonians pay from 22% to ~35%; (2) ABOLISH the income tax for ALL Middle Class and poor familes below 11,429 LIK--[OOC: 11,429 LIK is the equivalent to ~50,000 British Pounds]. (3) [IC]: Establish a 20% FLAT Tax on the wealthy citizens making above the 11,429 LIK threshold; (4) Revise and simplify the budget as according to the following formula: (a) 50% for National Defense (military) (b) 4/5th (80%) of the remaining half of the budget should be SUB-divided equally into the Finance, Education, Infrastructure, Trade & Industry, Science & Technology, and the Justice Dept.(s). (c) the Remaining "change" should be divided equally amongst everything else. Thank you for your full support. Cordially, Christian E. Savage, Minority Leader of the Capitalist Working Families Party P.S.: LONG LIVE the King of kings & Lord of lords, IMMERESSEN the Divine!!! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on luxury goods.
Old value:: 22
Current: 12
Proposed: 35
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Article 3
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 8,468,962 LIK | 85,000,000 LIK | 2,805,000,000 LIK |
| Foreign Affairs | 2,117,240,580 LIK | 425,000,000 LIK | 2,890,000,000 LIK |
| Internal Affairs | 7,622,066,087 LIK | 6,375,000,000 LIK | 2,805,000,000 LIK |
| Finance | 4,234,481,159 LIK | 6,375,000,000 LIK | 17,120,130,792 LIK |
| Defence | 12,703,443,478 LIK | 14,875,000,000 LIK | 128,400,980,938 LIK |
| Justice | 5,928,273,623 LIK | 37,500,000,000 LIK | 17,120,130,792 LIK |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 9,315,858,550 LIK | 4,250,000,000 LIK | 17,120,130,792 LIK |
| Health and Social Services | 11,856,547,246 LIK | 37,500,000,000 LIK | 8,560,065,396 LIK |
| Education and Culture | 8,468,962,319 LIK | 37,500,000,000 LIK | 17,120,130,792 LIK |
| Science and Technology | 6,775,169,855 LIK | 25,500,000,000 LIK | 17,120,130,792 LIK |
| Food and Agriculture | 5,081,377,391 LIK | 4,250,000,000 LIK | 4,250,000,000 LIK |
| Environment and Tourism | 4,657,929,275 LIK | 4,250,000,000 LIK | 4,250,000,000 LIK |
| Trade and Industry | 5,919,804,661 LIK | 17,000,000,000 LIK | 17,120,130,792 LIK |
| Total | 84,689,623,186 LIK | 195,885,000,000 LIK | 256,681,831,086 LIK |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:46:43, November 16, 2007 CET | From | Computational Intellect Project | To | Debating the Balance Budget COMPROMISE Act of 2487 |
| Message | If 11,429 LIK is roughly 50,000 British pounds, then 2,286 LIK should be spent on each student per year in education alone. In almost any nation, about 10 percent of the population are students in some level of education. So, there are approximately 17.3 million students in Likatonia. All levels of education in Likatonia are free, and for good reason. Thus, if you do the math, you will find that your education budget should be, at minimum, about 40 billion LIK. This only accounts for the educational budget, not for the cultural budget. Then, you should spend about 115 LIK per citizen per year on the cultural budget maintenance, for things such as libraries, museums, and national historical sites. So, you would spend about 20 billion LIK on the cultural part about the budget. This means that the total education and culture budget should be about 60 billion LIK, and you're actually trying to lower the budget; this makes no sense or sanity. Before you burst into "50 percent defense," you should assess the education and culture ministry first, and then grant 50 percent money towards defense, if you like, with the money that is left over. A nation cannot be great without great education, and without a great country, there is nothing worth defending. |
| Date | 19:23:39, November 16, 2007 CET | From | Kapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei | To | Debating the Balance Budget COMPROMISE Act of 2487 |
| Message | [IC] Immeressen, what HAPPENED??? I re-submitted the budget accomodating your requests for funding of Foreign Affairs, Internal Affairs, and Head of Government!!! That was the only problem that you listed. [OOC] John, thanks for your feedback. Well, the 40 Billion that is used to finance PUBLIC education is actually WASTEFUL for the simple fact that private and parochial schools charge tuition for ~1,100 LIK per year which amounts to private education being 50% CHEAPER than the public school education. Ironically, though, the GRADUATION rates from Immeressen & Catholic high schools are over 90% while that of public schools is not even 65% with the higher proportion being girls. Therefore, what SENSE would it make to "throw money at a problem" if you still do not get RESULTS??? Rather, the CWFP believes that the State should provide universal education for ALL but done more EFFICIENTLY via the Free Market---[cf. http://www.nycfamilies.org]. All in all, thanks for your feedback and take care. |
| Date | 21:22:01, November 16, 2007 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Balance Budget COMPROMISE Act of 2487 |
| Message | Spend too high, distribution all wrong. You might want to leave the difficult maths to the Finance Minister... |
| Date | 09:00:29, November 17, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Balance Budget COMPROMISE Act of 2487 |
| Message | The spending is all in the wrong places. The numbers are arbitrary as ever, and the hikes and cuts meaningless. We have long since reached the only peace we can on issues like this - we basically abstain from all these budget hi-jinks. |
| Date | 13:34:11, November 17, 2007 CET | From | Computational Intellect Project | To | Debating the Balance Budget COMPROMISE Act of 2487 |
| Message | Yes, well we also think that every educational system on Terra should be totally privatized, yet totally paid for by the state. This would result in higher graduation rates, and more money would be available for the schools to utilize and give even better education than they get now. Our nation (Barmenistan) has a totally private system (secular private; religious schools are banned for what we perceive as good reason); there are no public schools. Yet we spend the equivalent of hundreds of thousand of USD per student per year to each school, and all education is free in all levels (except Pre-K, which is unnecessary, so only the poor get free Pre-K because it is usually poor families that need Pre-K anyway), and we, not coincidentally, have the best education system in all of Terra. We also have a great educational minister (controlled by our party). |
| Date | 15:27:27, November 17, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Balance Budget COMPROMISE Act of 2487 |
| Message | While we value the input of the Solarwinds Rat Van and Underpants minister, we wonder what lead them to believe they had the "best education system in all of Terra". Only last summer, we knocked their team out of the International World Cup (Spelling Bee) in only the second round. |
| Date | 02:37:42, November 18, 2007 CET | From | Kapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei | To | Debating the Balance Budget COMPROMISE Act of 2487 |
| Message | [OOC] Johnathan, I thank you for agreeing with me on the policy. However, if you have a PRIVATE school system, then that means that the State can afford to cut education spending nearly in HALF since private education is cheaper. Also, how can you say that your educational system is "the best in terra" when you deny one of the most BASICS elements of Human Freedom: RELIGIOUS Education (optional, of course) |
| Date | 08:02:07, November 18, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Balance Budget COMPROMISE Act of 2487 |
| Message | Private education is cheaper... says who? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 7 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 50 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 43 |
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