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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of April 2487

Details

Submitted by[?]: Démocrates de la Gauche

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2487

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date07:18:59, November 17, 2007 CET
From Centre Démocratique
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2487
MessageWe are confident that our fellow leaders of the Democratic League for Jelbania and longtime friends - the Socialists and the Lib-Gov Party - will not seek to isolate UCC. Our three parties have stood together for many years and we will continue to do so. The Progressive Federalists are overreacting simply because we opposed one of their actions. What kind of steady leadership is that?

And look: they still want to remain head of government AND head of state!

Date07:29:20, November 17, 2007 CET
From Démocrates de la Gauche
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2487
MessageSo we want to remain the HoS and HoG? What is your point? That we are the largest D.L.J party and we should not do that? We were elected to the presidency by the people were we? You agreed in other cabient proposals to instate us as the HoG party as well? Where was your opposition to that? Can you tell me that? What do you want, your party opposes us on many more issues than we agree, and what is the reason that you remain in power with our cabient? We all agree on most issues except for you. In fact you are a main opposition party to ourself, the Socialst,Lib Gov, and Liberals are you? What do we have in common Mr. Speaker? I hope it's not a party wanting to remain in government for their parties sole purpose. I hope it's not that, I mean you being the perfect party and all...

Date07:37:28, November 17, 2007 CET
From Centre Démocratique
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2487
MessageYour comments are becoming increasing childish, particularly that last sentence. We were pointing out that members of your party have enlarged egos: you cause a minor foreign policy blunder, refuse to say it was a mistake, and throw a fit when parties want to condemn you and now you propose a new cabinet hoping to continue as head of state and head of government.

Date07:41:01, November 17, 2007 CET
From Démocrates de la Gauche
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2487
MessageHahaha childish comments? We are pointing out that you seem to be the "holier than all party" being a party that proclaims that everyone owes you seniority and favors because you have been here so long. Well we don't believe that senority lies within a party's time in a country but rather how the people elected them. You are being hipocritical saying that those were childish coments? Our party having enlarged egos? You can't be childish I prosume can you?

Date07:46:17, November 17, 2007 CET
From Centre Démocratique
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2487
MessageWe would appreciate if you did not make facts up - especially the ones regarding that we proclaim that everyone owes our party "seniority and favors."

Date07:46:44, November 17, 2007 CET
From Démocrates de la Gauche
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2487
MessageWhat about the HoS and HoG comment? Are you going to answer those questions? If you ever are elected would you keep the HoG and HoS position? It sure seems that you never would.

Date07:52:02, November 17, 2007 CET
From Centre Démocratique
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2487
MessageThis is getting ridiculous. We were merely pointing out that if our party were emerging from a controversy we would try to reach out to our allies by making one of them the head of government, not seek to continue with ourselves in that position. That is all.

Date08:01:58, November 17, 2007 CET
From Démocrates de la Gauche
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2487
MessageNo it's not getting ridiculous you started it now we want this issue to be resolved, don't debate back if you don't want to. Would your party hang on the HoG position, because I can't picture you resigning that spot. Or what is the reason you want us to resign that spot? And may I point out, you voted YES on a cabinent proposal to make us HoG and you even said you would be HONORED for that proposal to pass. You are not even included in the proposal so why are you pointing that out that we would remain in that postion (while distributing all the other positions to other parties except ourselves) you wouldn't be trying to distance all of us now would you? Or is that fair game now and have your ideals changed Mr. Speaker?

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 81

no
     

Total Seats: 242

abstain
   

Total Seats: 112


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