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Bill: Abortion Act of 2101
Details
Submitted by[?]: Civic Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2102
Description[?]:
| An act to declare abortion into the second trimester legal while still keeping partial birth abortions, ie third term abortions, illegal and punishable. ADDENTUM I However, third term abortions shall be legal in case of a medical emergency or in case the pregnancy was the result of rape |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:08:42, August 26, 2005 CET | From |  RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | In favour. |
| Date | 22:10:33, August 26, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | On second thought, I'd like to include an addendum along the lines of "However, third term abortions shall be legal in case of a medical emergency or in case the pregnancy was the result of rape." |
| Date | 22:11:31, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | Okay that was just added. Thank you for spotting that for me. |
| Date | 22:25:45, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | Against. Abortion is unecessary. |
| Date | 22:39:04, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | Excuse me sir but are you saying that second trimester abortions are unescessary or that all abortions are unecessary? If you are saying that all abortions are not necessary then I would like to know your reasons why. |
| Date | 22:55:43, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | Abortions in general arent necessary. If a woman doesnt want to keep her baby then she can simply have it put up for adoption. |
| Date | 23:09:26, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | But what if to save the mother's life an abortion is necessary? Are you saying that saving a life isn't necessary? |
| Date | 23:11:03, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | The first sentence should say: But what if an abortion is needed to save a mother's life? |
| Date | 23:18:48, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | Then we would support it, but that is not what this bill is proposing, my Right Honourable friend. |
| Date | 23:25:30, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | OOC: I don't have any seats so I would not have the designation of Right Honourable. IC: Thank you for clearing that up sir however I feel that adoption cannot always be best for the mother or the child. Without abortion you may have too many babies put up for adoption but not enough families who would be willing to give them a home. While I personally feel the same way that you do, sir, I feel that the government should not impose upon its citizens the morality of those in government. I would hope that given the choice between abortion and adoption that a mother would choose adoption however I feel that a hard decision like that one is between the mother and her family and should not be within the realm of governmental intervention. The best thing a government can do is allow those who are most effected by these incidents, the mother of this child, the father, and the close friends and family, to make the call on whether or not the baby should be aborted or adopted not the government. Letting personal choice decide is often a much better way of settling devisive issues such as this one rather than having the government decide people's actions. |
| Date | 23:35:14, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | [OOC: True, but whatever.] Your points are well made and valid, sir, but I do now, however, agree with them, nor do they convince me of your case. Let me explain. In aborting a child, whether or not you believe that it technically constitutes murder, you prevent a human being from coming into existance. Now this is about morality - of course it is - murder is wrong, theft is wrong and assault is wrong and the government legislates and is right to legislate against all of these. That is not, however, the only reason for my beliefs. In the coming years, the population of nations will be more important than ever. A person can get a job and work and contribute to the nation. An aborted foetus cannot. Your points concerning unwanted pregnancies would, of course, if it were the case that there were no other choice. This is not the case. Adoption, fostering and even long term state care of children is, in my opinion (and the opinion of every man with a conscience and sense of economics) far in preferance to preventing the child from entering the world (calling this anything other than murder is pure pedantics). For these reasons we support our original proposals - that abortion only be legal in case of a medical emergency. Personal choice does not extend to deciding upon the life or death of others. |
| Date | 00:00:24, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Abortion Act of 2101 |
| Message | We support an expansion of abortion rights. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 138 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 393 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 68 |
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