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Bill: Cabinet Debate
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Democrats of Jakania
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2494
Description[?]:
| For a new Cabinet. Positions that some parties are adamant about: Justice - UDJ Science and Technology - SLP Education and Culture - AAA Foreign Affairs - JIRP Known positions: PM - Belongs to SResP since they supported the FPJ. Justice - UDJ Foreign Affairs - JIRP Finance - JIRP Science & Technology - SLP Defence - SLP Education and Culture - AAA Internal Affairs - AAA Trade and Industry - AAA Enviroment & Tourism - CPJ Infrastructure and Transportation - CPJ Food & Agriculture - SResP Say what you want below, be fair, everyone should get at least one seat. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:12:34, November 28, 2007 CET | From |  United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Additional seats the UDJ would like: Health and Social Services I'd like it, but understand if I shouldn't get it |
| Date | 22:35:01, November 28, 2007 CET | From | Archo-Antitheist Agenda | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | The AAA feels strongly about holding the following cabinet seats: Education and Culture Science and Technology (though if the SLP is adamant about holding this we will not contest) Trade and Industry We would be pleased to be considered for, though will not press for, the following positions: Internal Affairs Health and Social Services |
| Date | 22:52:27, November 28, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Well, I would like H&SS if the others don't mind, I've held it for 2 or 3 terms now. About Science and Technology, the SLP established there position in it a bit ago, we'll keep them there, but I can put you in Internal Affairs |
| Date | 22:54:06, November 28, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Once again, I'm not to pushy for H&SS since I have only 14 seats, but would like it. If anybody feels like they need that spot, or it's just theres by right or something (kinda like how I feel over Justice, I do not mock you for it) just say so |
| Date | 23:29:56, November 28, 2007 CET | From | Archo-Antitheist Agenda | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | I will settle for Internal Affairs, though I remain adamant about Education and Culture. |
| Date | 23:48:56, November 28, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | I would like Internal Affairs, but if AAA is strongly pushing that, then I shall recant. Finance or Defense are good choices we would like to pursue. As a lesser option, Infraustructure and Transport is good. |
| Date | 01:42:46, November 29, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Ok, I'll put you as Finance, but I'm pretty sure the SLP would also like Defence, and to be fair, they have a dual-majority |
| Date | 03:21:44, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | I can deal with Finance over Defense. |
| Date | 05:10:06, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Scientific Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | We do indeed just about require Science & Technology. We're would indeed like to keep Defense, but that's not a deal-breaker, we could give it up if necessary (though we'd probably want two other seats in exchange). Giving Head of State to SResP for an election cycle or two is okay with us, it does sidestep the issue of whether AAA or SLP should get it, tied for plurality as we are. We could be content with just S&T and Defense for now. |
| Date | 08:00:37, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Well the deal was that with SResP support of the FPJ for supreme governor they would get PM, so a deal is a deal. I shall secede Defense to the SLP and try for Finance with keeping Foreign Affairs. As everyone knows, we cannot support any new cabinet without our candidate as Foreign Minister. We are pretty set on pursuing the Finance Minister spot, but we could settle for a lesser cabinet position if another party is interested and could state why. |
| Date | 20:32:19, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Birleşik Demokrat Parti | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | I'll take whatevers going. |
| Date | 21:40:27, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | I think with the New Socialist Party not being active, we should leave them out if they don't respond. So what is left. 11 or so positions and 9 are filled. I can think that Environment & Tourism, Infrastructure & Transport are the only one not filled. |
| Date | 21:53:31, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Oh, Food and Agriculture is another post. |
| Date | 22:02:13, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Social Religious Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Interesting to see the SRP was not included. At least we've learned a lesson: never support other parties. |
| Date | 22:46:43, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Well SRP, you got to speak up. What positions are you looking for? Discussion is very important or you are going to be left out. |
| Date | 23:01:10, November 29, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Seriously, if you don't get included, but you participated in the discussion then theres a problem, but you have not said one thing. |
| Date | 00:09:45, November 30, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Does the current proposal look ok? All who have actively participated have been granted at least a seat |
| Date | 07:38:34, November 30, 2007 CET | From | Archo-Antitheist Agenda | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | No objections here. |
| Date | 08:17:42, November 30, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | No objections, you may go ahead with the cabinet proposal. |
| Date | 04:06:26, December 01, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Cabinet Debate |
| Message | Sending to vote for records and the like |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 158 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 48 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 44 |
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