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Bill: Immeressent Thinking
Details
Submitted by[?]: Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2494
Description[?]:
| We know you'll all vote for these fabulous proposals. 1> Lets get that old dead lady out of our anthem 2> Lets give our prefectures equal, fair billing 3> Let's not use nukes unless we really have to 4> Lets take the strain off our health service by letting the rich but their own 5> Lets let central government manage a co-ordinated 'Sport for All' policy. Thank you very much, you've been a great convocation. We're here all week. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The lyrics of the national anthem.
Old value:: Well since she took our Crown I’ve been out doing in my head Come in late at night and in the morning I just lay in bed Well, Rhonda you look so fine (look so fine) And I know it wouldnt take much time For you to help us Rhonda Help get Likaton into our hearts Help us Rhonda Help, help us Rhonda Help us Rhonda Help, help us Rhonda Help us Rhonda Help, help us Rhonda Help us Rhonda Help, help us Rhonda Help us Rhonda yeah Get Likaton into our hearts She is our Emissary And we are gonna be her peeps And she let her puppies get loose amongst us And it made our dreams come true Well, Rhonda you caught our eye (caught our eye) And we can give you lots of reasons why You gotta help us Rhonda Help get Likaton into our hearts Help us Rhonda Help, help us Rhonda Help us Rhonda Help, help us Rhonda Help us Rhonda Help, help us Rhonda Help us Rhonda Help, help us Rhonda Help us Rhonda yeah Get Likaton into our hearts
Current:
| "Beneath the Likatonian Skies" In the heart of every Likatonian soul, Lies the spirit of freedom, brave and bold. From the Luthori shores to Likatonia's land, We carved our destiny with our own hands. Beneath the Likatonian skies, so vast and wide, Together we stand, with pride side by side. From East Bolton's gold to the fields of green, In every heart, the Likatonian dream is seen. Through the trials of revolution's fiery night, We sought our liberty, our sacred right. In unity, our voices rose as one, Under the banner of freedom, we were never undone. From the Native Likatonian's ancient song, To the settlers' hopes, enduring and strong. In every corner of this land we roam, Likatonia, forever our home. In the east, where the wild frontiers call, To the western lands, where the mighty rivers fall. Our nation's story, a tapestry so grand, Woven by every woman, child, and man. Arise, Likatonians, in unity and might, For our land, for our freedom, for our right. Under the Likatonian skies, we pledge our love so true, To our beloved land, red, white, and blue. |
Proposed:
| Likatonia So proud and free There's nowhere else I'd rather be |
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Current: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Proposed: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in retaliation to any attack.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to nuclear weapons in retaliation to a nuclear, chemical or biological attack.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The method used to determine the number of seats each region receives in the national legislature.
Old value:: A proportional algorithm that gives a very small advantage to larger regions.
Current: A proportional algorithm that gives a very small advantage to larger regions.
Proposed: A pseudo-proportional algorithm that gives considerable advantage to smaller regions.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The funding of sports clubs.
Old value:: Local governments decide the funding policy of sports clubs.
Current: The government does not fund sports clubs; only private ones are allowed.
Proposed: All sports clubs are government owned and run.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:23:37, November 30, 2007 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | We're just gutted we couldn't vote twice!!!!! |
| Date | 22:35:06, November 30, 2007 CET | From | Permissive Social Union | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | We would have supported if the national anthem was a Kazoo Solo. |
| Date | 22:36:17, November 30, 2007 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | Well, the anthem we proposed does have kazoo accompaniment in the original arrangement... |
| Date | 02:04:50, December 01, 2007 CET | From | Neue Kommunistische Liga | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | Eh, only one wesupport, so...Sorry, but no. |
| Date | 05:50:55, December 01, 2007 CET | From | Permissive Social Union | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | A kazoo accompaniment is sufficient for us to support. |
| Date | 06:40:37, December 01, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | While we would have liked to supp... oh, who are we kidding. The advantage to smaller reasons is not only unexplained and illogical, but also - not what the Am II claimed in their flavour text. We could care less about most of the items, to be honest, but we see no rationale behind a constitutional amendment of this kind. |
| Date | 10:46:53, December 01, 2007 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | We just feel that Meria is getting a rough deal; there aren't enough prefecture seats there to give it a fair voice... |
| Date | 14:11:03, December 01, 2007 CET | From | Kapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | We are ADAMANTLY opposed to #5, but 4 out of 5 is ok. P.S.: While we do sympathize with the INJUSTICE that the voters in Meria are experiencing, we believe that the BEST solution would just be EQUAL representation. |
| Date | 16:10:51, December 01, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | There is no injustice to Meria. If it has a fraction the number of citizens, it deserves a fraction of the elctoral seats. They may feel that Merian interests are not well represented... but giving them greater PROPORTIONAL representation means every other prefecture is less well represented... with less cause. |
| Date | 09:48:01, December 02, 2007 CET | From | Kapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | [OOC] TDP, we FINALLY agree on something (haha): that is that it is wrong to give people in Meria greater "proportional" representation when they have a smaller population. That is why I am VIGOROUS supporter of BI-cameral legislatures in which the UPPER house would be based according to population while the LOWER house is based on EQUAL representation. In this way, EVERYONE benefits (haha)!!!! |
| Date | 17:34:32, December 02, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Immeressent Thinking |
| Message | On the other hand - we don't care about bicameral representation. We prefer the government of self by self. No cameral (bi, or otherwise) representation can ever represent the individual as well as the individual himself (or herself). |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 234 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 214 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 218 |
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