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Bill: Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front

Details

Submitted by[?]: Démocrates de la Gauche

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2495

Description[?]:

This bill will guarantee Jelbania's support to the Deltarian Liberation Front. As what has happened is that Right's Lutheran Party has declared civil war as a member of their anti-Junta coalition has dessented and given the propoer authority to declare war on us. Thus the Right's Lutheran Party has invoked civil war. What this bill will guarantee is that we in no way will support the Junta of Deltaria in any way, shape or form. And through later introduced and passing legislation we will guarantee more support in more detail.

Pierre Cremieux, Chairman of the Progressive Federalist Party

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date03:50:11, December 02, 2007 CET
FromVonkajšíci
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageA Junta is a military rule. The whole reason we're proposing war against you is to AVOID a Junta.

Date03:52:42, December 02, 2007 CET
FromDobré Podnikatelia
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageThe Right Lutherans Party and the Liberation Front thank you for your support. You may join the Liberation Front under the Party Organizations.

Date03:54:05, December 02, 2007 CET
FromDobré Podnikatelia
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageThe SSK has threatened to undergo a coup of the government if the HoS (or HoG can't remember) exercises their veto power. Isn't that right?

Date03:55:03, December 02, 2007 CET
FromDobré Podnikatelia
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageOOC: mb actually i need some1 to create the Liberation Front party organization. i cant cuz i already manage another.

Date10:28:52, December 02, 2007 CET
From Socialist Jelbanian Party-D.L.J.-D.L.F
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageOOC: Unfortunately I think that here in Jelbania we are all founders of a party organization...perhaps the social liberals

Date12:08:25, December 02, 2007 CET
From Bloc Militaire pour Restauration
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
Messagewe find this bill premature, let's wait what developments in Deltaria will be before we take action

Date17:23:06, December 02, 2007 CET
From Centre Démocratique
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageIf SSK does go through with their invasion plans, we would consider supporting this Deltarian Liberation Front.

Date19:58:16, December 02, 2007 CET
From Revolutionary Constit'nal United Front
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageYou're kidding me? They're all just a lot of godless commies. You can't trust them worth a damn. What they're saying is just a plot to make us too dependant on one type of bastards so that the other type of bastards moves in for the kill. Then all the bastards gang up on us and the bastards we're allied with turn out to be no less bastardly than the bastards who plowed their guns into our country!
--(Retired) Gen. William Hornathew Buck, Former Minister of Defense

The CUF would like to add, though we do not support the entirety of the Retired Generals objection, his point should not be overlooked. Though we doubt that it's an insidiuous plot to lure us into supporting opposition parties in Deltaria, we feel that it would dilute our resources needlessly. It may create a weaker primary front. So until it is established that we have excess resources with which to support insurgents within Deltaria, we cannot rely on others to fight this war for us. Later, we may support this resolution if there is no contingency to provide any resources and/or coordination, but we do not feel that this is the correct time for this.
--CUF

Date20:48:22, December 02, 2007 CET
From Démocrates de la Gauche
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageWe can't stand like a pole in water and wait for the tide to come in. The Right's Lutheran Party is literally saving us from having to deal with the rogue SSK. They are going to invoke civil war for the sake of them having the courage to deal with their own internal difficulties and not by dragging other nations into this ordeal. Well for those of you who don't want to support them maybe the Right's Lutheran Party should let them attack us, I am not saying they should do that, I don't want them too. But the Right's Lutheran Party is invoking civil war, JUST FOR US! They are not doing it for personal gain. I am a person who wants to wait and see what happens, but what the thought right now is that we should be isolationist and withdraw from the matters of the world. Well if we don't support the Rights's Lutheran Party now. Then generations from now we will be invoking civil war against our Deltarian overlords. All I am saying is that you should be conservative, but there is a time for preemptiveness, and this is a time. I beg all of the parties for the sake of our future, for the sake of our grandchildren we must fight this enemy over there and fight a good fight, or we will be facing them on our beaches, in our cities, and in our homes.

Pierre Cremieux, Chairman of the Progressive Federalist Party

Date20:49:47, December 02, 2007 CET
From Démocrates de la Gauche
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageI want to first hand thank all the parties who voted to support the DLF and the parties that intend to.

Pierre Cremieux, Chairman of the Progressive Federalist Party

Date20:50:37, December 02, 2007 CET
FromDobré Podnikatelia
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageThe Constiutional United Front must understand that the Right Lutherans Party, People's Communist Party, Communist Party, and the Labour Party are all against the SSK. We have been since they introduced their far-fetched ideas in the Duma (our law-making body). We, the Right Lutherans Party, have also been working hand-in-hand with a Jelbanian political party in order to continue peace in our nations. It is because of these ties that we were tipped off of what was happening and hurried to embark on civil war.

Date20:53:28, December 02, 2007 CET
From Démocrates de la Gauche
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageQUESTION TIME: Is there a certain time or conditions that you (RLP) are going to invoke civil war? Or have those conditions already been met?

Pierre Cremieux, Chairman of the Progressive Federalist Party

Date21:10:36, December 02, 2007 CET
FromDobré Podnikatelia
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageThese are the conditions: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=159017 However, the SSK has also tried to overthrow our government with anarchy, install corruption (http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=159020), and ultimately rule in almost solitary power (http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=158069). As for timing, we must consult with the PCP, LS, and CP, but we believe that April will be the month to attack.

Date21:11:45, December 02, 2007 CET
FromDobré Podnikatelia
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageThe SSK is in Alliance with all the parties of the Deltarian Patriots League. This League was created to be "sympathizers" to the Deltarian People. However, it has become more obvious that they wish only to ruin our heritage and plague us with terror.

Date22:26:07, December 02, 2007 CET
From Social Liberal Party - D.L.J.
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageWe have created the international organisation supporting the Deltarian Liberation Front.

Date22:59:31, December 02, 2007 CET
From Revolutionary Constit'nal United Front
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageIn light of changing conditions, we would like to withdraw the venerable General Buck's proposal of a pre-emptive strike. We will however wish to intervene in Deltaria and deploy our forces to work with the Deltarian Liberation Front. If that is acceptable, we would like to propose the commencement of airstrikes against key SSK (and Deltarian Patriots League) targets, as soon as possible. The sooner we reduce SSK's military capabilities, the less of a threat a full-scale invasion of Jelbania will be.

Date00:06:17, December 03, 2007 CET
From Centre Démocratique
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageBut isn't that pre-emptive? We would like to hear what exactly the RLP and other Deltarian parties want us to do.

Date00:49:10, December 03, 2007 CET
From Démocrates de la Gauche
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageWell maybe we should slow down and evaluate everything first. The civil war hasn't been invoked yet. So in this case we all support the DLF. However as of yet we have received word of a planned DLF attack on the DPL stronghold of Chachtice Province. However if the RLP sends us all messages and keeps us updated on strikes and attacks we could know where help is needed and where it would be tactically best suited.

Pierre Cremieux, Chairman of the Progressive Federalist Party

Date02:05:13, December 03, 2007 CET
From Centre Démocratique
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageWe agree with the comments from Chairman Cremieux.

Date05:48:29, December 03, 2007 CET
FromDobré Podnikatelia
ToDebating the Bill Guaranteeing Suport to the Deltarian Liberation Front
MessageWe will discuss all tactics in the party organization Deltarian Liberation Front

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