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Bill: conservative Reformation
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jewish-Christian Alliance of Patriots
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2496
Description[?]:
| To undo the wrongs. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Current: Homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military actively seeks to remove homosexuals from it.
Proposed: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:39:10, December 03, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Socialist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | What good would making homosexuality in the millitary intolerable do? "Don't ask, don't tell" is blatant discrimination and cannot truly allow a homosexual recruit to be able to relate with his comrades in arms. Especially if they are forced into serving a term in the millitary upon completion of schooling, as your second Article deems fit. Opposed to the first. As for the second, is there any need or real outside threat that would prompt the Darnussian Republic to have a constant supply of recruits for its army? |
| Date | 04:49:31, December 03, 2007 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | Undoing wrongs? More like reinstatement of wrongs... Naturally opposed. |
| Date | 09:18:54, December 03, 2007 CET | From | Neoliberal Party | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | Support article 1, but oppose article 2. |
| Date | 09:19:50, December 03, 2007 CET | From | Neoliberal Party | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | I think I'll vote "no" if this will be voted upon, the people see me as "convinced militarist".. |
| Date | 11:45:03, December 03, 2007 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | This has our full support. |
| Date | 14:53:54, December 03, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Darnussia | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | We oppose this bill. Namely article 2 |
| Date | 17:04:15, December 03, 2007 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | RWA, what if Patriots would change article 2 into term in Military or lesser paid civilian service? |
| Date | 01:50:46, December 04, 2007 CET | From | Jewish-Christian Alliance of Patriots | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | I want this. I can resubmit the first article. Having RWA look more moderate helps the right. |
| Date | 09:31:19, December 04, 2007 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | That's correct. |
| Date | 16:14:51, December 04, 2007 CET | From | Jewish-Christian Alliance of Patriots | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | As for Article 2, we face a constant threat from Deltaria and the Lusitanians |
| Date | 23:21:26, December 04, 2007 CET | From | Deists of Darnussia | To | Debating the conservative Reformation |
| Message | The Desists beleive that a little love goes a long way--think of Alexander the Great. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 135 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 104 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 61 |
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