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Bill: Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations

Details

Submitted by[?]: Radical Freedom Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2103

Description[?]:

The Federated Parliament or Rutania,

Considering fireworks to be fun for everyone;

Realising that children are perfectly capable of using smaller fireworks;

Further realising the need for proper labelling;

-Repeals the ban on selling fireworks to children.
-Makes the proper labelling of fireworks, and a suggested age compulsory. Labels must include instructions on how to properly use the product.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date12:31:15, August 28, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Imperialist Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageAgainst. If you'd seen pictures of children firing fireworks at each other then you would be against this too. We dont belief in putting explosives in the hands of minors.

Date12:34:13, August 28, 2005 CET
From RSDP - Democratic Front
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageWe're against this too, we believe that most children are not mature or responsible enough to properly deal with fireworks and small explosives.

Date12:58:45, August 28, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Imperialist Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageI think the key word is SOME, but those some are the ones most likely to buy fireworks, and the ones most likely to cause damage, injury or even death with them.

Date12:58:55, August 28, 2005 CET
FromGrand Republican Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageNever!

Date13:03:54, August 28, 2005 CET
FromRadical Freedom Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageNanny-state paternalism!

Date13:29:39, August 28, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Imperialist Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageOh yes of course. Not allowing 8 year olds to buy explosives is the hallmark of the nanny state :rolleyes:

Date17:37:42, August 28, 2005 CET
FromRadical Freedom Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageThe record will show that your party opposes freedom.

Date17:47:43, August 28, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Imperialist Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessagePfft. The freedom for primary school children to purchase explosives? It is not me who history will damn, and it is not history that will damn you.

Date17:57:26, August 28, 2005 CET
FromRadical Freedom Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageI'd like children to be able to play with firecrackers yes.

Date18:19:58, August 28, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Imperialist Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageSadly, that is not what you are proposing.

Date18:26:14, August 28, 2005 CET
FromRadical Freedom Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageBut it is. The LIP just does not want to see it.

Date18:30:00, August 28, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Imperialist Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageOh yes it is. However you are ALSO proposing that children be allowed to buy any fireworks they want.

Now, [OOC: Whilst we're in the habit of making up examples to support our proposals.] havent you heard of poor Peter Thomshon who was blown up after someone launched a firework at him? [OOC: It's happened before in Britain] You will doubtless answer to people like him and his family if this legislation is introduced and dozens more die.

Date18:36:23, August 28, 2005 CET
FromRadical Freedom Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageYes, my Rt. Hon. friend, I have. And might I point out that it was illegal fireworks that were being used. The current legislation only allows adults to purchase fireworks. This pushes small fireworks for children, which you would agree are reasonable, into the circuit of criminalit.y.

The proposed legislation makes the proper labelling of fireworks, and a suggested age compulsory. In addition, labels must include instructions on how to properly use the product.

As you can see, my Rt. Hon. friend, this bill would introduce some sense in fireworks legislation rather then the blanke ban that is currently in place on *all* fireworks. Giving people proper information, and introducing a flexible suggested age, will save lives.

Date18:48:04, August 28, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Imperialist Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageYou think that people who intend to fire fireworks at each other will take the time to read and follow the safety instructions? How quaint... and at the same time... moronic. The current legislation ensure that fireworks are left in the hands of adults as far as possible who are, on average, much more responsible, less likely to use them as weapons and more likely to follow the safety instructions. This legislation removes fireworks from the hands of the minority of children who are given them by their parents, or who steal them and put them into the hands of the majority of children, a large number of whom will use them as weapons where they would not have had access to them before. This legislation is naive, dangerous and unnecessary, and it should not have the support of any party which claims to command a modicum of common sense or intelligence.

Date20:28:59, August 28, 2005 CET
FromRadical Freedom Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageThat insult was uncalled for, Sir, in a debate about fireworks liberalisation.

Using fireworks as weapons is, frankly, a stretch of the imagination. There are many things that could be used as weapons, better than fireworks. This debate now revolves about something which is, frankly, far away from how fireworks will be used by most Rutanians. Furthermore, this act has restrictions in place which would prevent most abuses.

Is it seriously the position of those parties voting NAY that youth should not be allowed to play with firecrackers?

Date21:30:13, August 28, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Imperialist Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageIs it seriously the position of those parties voting AYE that youth should be allowed to buy fireworks containing several hundred kilogrammes of explosives?

[OOC: Yes, they do exist. Ive even seen a picture of one that weighed upwards of a tonne.]

Im also very **pleased** that the Liberty Movement is treating the deaths of people like Peter Thompson so flippantly, even going so far as to deny that what caused his death actually occurs! Most excellent indeed!

Date16:26:57, August 29, 2005 CET
From Freedom Party
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageAfter my experience at the reading festival i would say that i am against this.

Wankers, chavs, idiots, druggies and drunks do not mix well with fireworks or fire.

Date16:41:25, August 29, 2005 CET
From RSDP - Democratic Front
ToDebating the Act Liberalising Fireworks Regulations
MessageChavs? What are chavs?

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 14

no
     

Total Seats: 393

abstain
   

Total Seats: 192


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