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Bill: Death Penalty
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Democrats of Rutania
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2044
Description[?]:
| State ordered death is a complex moral issue that requires much thought. However, New Democrats think that these decisions should be left to the judges and juries of the judicial system in particular cases; the legislature should allow them to do so by legalizing the death penalty. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | not recorded | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | We're in favor. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Imperial Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | No. |
| Date | not recorded | From |  RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | We oppose this bill. |
| Date | not recorded | From | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | No way you facist pigs! |
| Date | not recorded | From | New Democrats of Rutania | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | Facist pigs? Riiiiiiiight. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | (The death penalty is applied for capital crimes seems to be a bit of circular logic) |
| Date | not recorded | From | Imperial Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | (precisely, another way of saying, its only ethical once everyone's dead) |
| Date | not recorded | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | I have two main reasons for opposing this bill: 1) I believe it is wrong to kill someone (even criminals) and 2) justice can make mistakes. It has happened often that someone was sentenced to death and that a few years later evidence was found indicating he or she was innocent. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Libertarian Alcoholic Par-tay | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | The "What if they're innocent" argument is a fairly important one. However, I have enough faith in Rutanian judges to hope that they won't sentence too many innocents to death. I support this bill. |
| Date | not recorded | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | ANY innocent man sentenced to death is one too much. The only way we can be certain no innocent persons will be sentenced to death is by not having a death penalty. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Imperial Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | Not to mention to standard irrational immorality. As before alluded to: If one is killed for killing then surely the killer of this man in turn is to die, and then the killer of that man in turn to die, and so forth till eternity. Not to mention there may be many who have killed that AREN'T insane. |
| Date | not recorded | From | New Democrats of Rutania | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | Great logic, Imperial Alright, if we've got LAP, Conservatives, and myself, I'm going to bring it to a vote. |
| Date | 13:26:13, April 28, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
| Message | We are not utterly against the death penalty. But we dislike what it is here being applied for, and the rationale behind it. The option to put people to death however, we see fit in "certain" other circumstances if the authorities see fit. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 175 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 146 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: References to prominent real-life persons are not allowed. This includes references to philosophies featuring the name of a real-life person (eg. "Marxism", "Thatcherism", "Keynesianism"). |
| Random quote: "We must show that liberty is not merely one particular value but that it is the source and condition of most moral values. What a free society offers to the individual is much more than what he would be able to do if only he were free. We can therefore not fully appreciate the value of freedom until we know how a society of free men as a whole differs from one in which unfreedom prevails." - Friedrich August Hayek |