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Bill: The Konstantin Reichsohn Memorial Bill (ii)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2501
Description[?]:
| We liked this bill so much, we are going to re-run it. We encourage voters to think about the advantages of the POW clause, before dismissing it. "The returning of POW's is a strategic measure. Every POW held in Likatonia requires food, shelter... even guards. If we hold the POWs, we have to feed them, clothe them, shelter them - guard them. All at our own cost, and we gain little advantage. On the other hand, if we allow our adversary to come and collect their own soldiers, they have to pay for transport, they have to spare the men to do the transporting, and the vessels required. Then they pay to feed, house, etc their own POWs, until they have them debriefed, retrained and redeployed. This could easily take each POW out of the war for - maybe - half a year, and compels the adversary nation to take care of them for the whole time they are out of service. There are other advantages if one thinks about it... the great psychological effect it will have on the citizens of the adversary nation, for example... the morale effect on their soldiers, and the fact that we never have to worry about escapes, or deal with our own people fussing about POW camps being located nearby." |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Proposed: The nation shall never develop, purchase or store biological or chemical weaponry.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: Every public building is required to feature provisions for civil defence and at least 50% of spaces must be allocated to private citizens.
Current: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Proposed: Local authorities are responsible for building and maintaining shelters.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation maintains no intelligence agency.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Proposed: The nation shall never develop, produce or store nuclear weaponry.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are immediately returned to their own government.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government allows conventional arms to be exported freely.
Current: The government allows all arms to be exported freely.
Proposed: The government does not allow arms to be exported.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:27:28, December 07, 2007 CET | From | Kapitalist-Arbeitsfamilien Partei | To | Debating the The Konstantin Reichsohn Memorial Bill (ii) |
| Message | (1) "...and we gain little advantage."---TDP Actually, the detaining of POWs gives us one SMALL-but-BIG advantage: Our Generals and troops get CRITICAL & VITAL intelligence information that can lead to the arrest or capture of other enemy troops and/or assets. (2) Why should the National Government delegate the responsiblity of NATIONAL defense to LOCAL governments??? (3) And Likatonia should have NO intelligence agency??? Are you mad (LOL)? We need such an agency to collect information on terrorist activities and other governmental secrets from the Lodamanse. |
| Date | 08:40:50, December 07, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the The Konstantin Reichsohn Memorial Bill (ii) |
| Message | 1) How are we getting this critical but vital information that is your 'small-but-big' advantage? Keeping people in prisoncamps is necessary for questioning now? 2) Why should national defence devolve to local government? Well, if for no other reason than the fact that 'national defence' is really just a lot of local defence. 3) I'm sure we can find other ways to get our information, without direct espionage. |
| Date | 15:59:01, December 07, 2007 CET | From | Permissive Social Union | To | Debating the The Konstantin Reichsohn Memorial Bill (ii) |
| Message | While we are at it, can we propose a national "pull down our pants, bend over and roughly take me from behind Mr Keymon" law? No. |
| Date | 16:05:26, December 07, 2007 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the The Konstantin Reichsohn Memorial Bill (ii) |
| Message | One of the few times we agree with the AM LFF! |
| Date | 18:24:08, December 07, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the The Konstantin Reichsohn Memorial Bill (ii) |
| Message | The Keymonese are our friends. There will be peace in our time. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 180 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 274 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 212 |
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