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Bill: Lodamun Volunteers
Details
Submitted by[?]: National People's Gang
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2105
Description[?]:
| A charitable agency shall be established to recruit and train young people from the ages of 17 to 27 to perform a full range of community services, from supervising crowd and traffic movements at major events of all kinds, to emergency first aid and paramedic services, fire prevention and firefighting in urban, suburban, rural and specialist environments, such as wildernesses, and including coastal, mountain and cave search and rescue operations. They will be trained in the use of necessary specialist equipment including competence in road, off-road, waterborne and airborne vehicles. As well as providing emergency support to medical, fire and coastal services in times of crisis, the Lodamun Volunteers will provide excellent opportunities for extending the skill and experiences of young people, and will promote comradeship and community responsibility. Upon leaving the Lodamun Volunteers, recruits shall become members of the Lodamun Volunteers Reserve until the age of 37 and will become LV trainers as well as providing additional support in times of dire need. As it is inappropriate for the country's military personnel to be deployed in a support role to the police, this act revokes and replaces the Emergency Actions Authorisation Act in all its elements. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:48:06, August 30, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Lodamun Volunteers |
| Message | Supported, this would revolutionize the way Lodamun reacts to emergencies. |
| Date | 02:23:43, August 30, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Lodamun Volunteers |
| Message | An innovative and useful proposal. Therefore, expect it to be defeated. |
| Date | 03:14:58, August 30, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Lodamun Volunteers |
| Message | Is this to be publicly funded? Why cant this organization be called in when needed, with the military being available if they cannot handle it? Remove the proposal, and we will vote for. You can redefine "serious emergencies" to be emergencies where even the LVs cannot handle the situation... I feel that the military should not be ruled out as a last resort. The only reason they should be is if they are needed elsewhere at the time, which is unlikely to happen in a cataclysmic situation that requires them. |
| Date | 05:20:31, August 30, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Lodamun Volunteers |
| Message | The military are a last resort resource. There is no need to pass a law to create a voluntary force that are willing to support and help the emergency services. The proposal is unnecessary. As such we will vote against this measure, just as it is unneeded government interfewrence, and it removes the possibility of calling upon the military to help when absolutely necessary. |
| Date | 17:41:03, August 31, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Lodamun Volunteers |
| Message | Maybe we could extend the role of the Volunteers to provide a civillian based defence service ((A la Switzerland)). |
| Date | 17:50:03, August 31, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Lodamun Volunteers |
| Message | A proper civilian-based defence will require a short term of mandatory training for all citizens under the national service bill. We woudl be prepared to support this as an alternative and cheaper defence to nuclear arms, if other parties are interested in this. (There is some discussion on this in the defence discussion bill presented by the Peepul, but no one has responded to the CBD suggestion.) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 122 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 157 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 21 |
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