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Bill: Threat of war
Details
Submitted by[?]: New NationalistParty for Peoples Good
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2500
Description[?]:
| Now when Kafuristan Threatening us with war we need to prepare for it. note: this not a war declaration |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: Every public building is required to feature provisions for civil defence, but there is no requirement for shelters to be open to the public.
Current: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Proposed: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:44:23, December 12, 2007 CET | From | New NationalistParty for Peoples Good | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | anything more i should ad? |
| Date | 19:44:26, December 12, 2007 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | Agreed. |
| Date | 19:45:58, December 12, 2007 CET | From | New NationalistParty for Peoples Good | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | maybe "The Government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation." |
| Date | 19:49:37, December 12, 2007 CET | From | Solentia National Socialist Party | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | Yeh - more defence the better |
| Date | 19:49:37, December 12, 2007 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | God forbid they are needed, but yes. |
| Date | 19:50:01, December 12, 2007 CET | From | New NationalistParty for Peoples Good | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | maybe "The Government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation." |
| Date | 19:50:33, December 12, 2007 CET | From | New NationalistParty for Peoples Good | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | ohh you shouldn't hit F5 |
| Date | 19:52:09, December 12, 2007 CET | From | New NationalistParty for Peoples Good | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | send this out before the new month. if you have anything more create a new proposal |
| Date | 19:56:52, December 12, 2007 CET | From | Solentian People Party | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | We need protection incase of war Timothy Cooper, Foreign Secretary |
| Date | 20:33:06, December 12, 2007 CET | From | New Centre and Unionists | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | The Liberal Alliance strongly advises against such policies. War is not an excuse for the consolodation of power for the right, this should be seen as a great diplomatic opportunity and a chance to really show Terra that Solentian Foreign Relations are strong and just. |
| Date | 20:37:27, December 12, 2007 CET | From | New NationalistParty for Peoples Good | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | We are not doing this for personal benefit! it's what we think is best for Solentia, if you don't agree then it's good you say that. this proposals is not preparations for attacking but right now Kafuristan is voting about if they should attack us. |
| Date | 20:39:51, December 12, 2007 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | Liberal Alliance, I do not believe these measures equate into a consolidation for the Right. In the present situation I think they are reasonable. They could be turned back, afterwords. We have no way of knowing for certain if Kafuristan will attack, at this point. I am attempting to reach their head of state. Hopefully we can continue to enjoy peace. |
| Date | 20:47:08, December 12, 2007 CET | From | New Centre and Unionists | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | If what you say is true, and is not a demonstration of how manipulative and deceitful the right can be, what use are these measures? If we are not to go to war, why dop you force our people into enslavement under the false visage of "Pre-War preparation"? Why attempt to take any action at all if you plan to enjoy peace? This all seems like a convenient plot of the SRNP; you are trying to deceive the Solentian nation into creating a police-state. |
| Date | 21:17:49, December 12, 2007 CET | From | New NationalistParty for Peoples Good | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | well we are trying to avoid war but Kafuristan can still attack us. |
| Date | 21:26:49, December 12, 2007 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | We have no interest in a police state. Our record is clear, we favor small government where possible. We do need to have an army ready in this crisis, and bolstering our numbers by increasing conscription (notice I say increase, it is already present as you can see from legislation) makes us more prepared. Do not be mislead by Kafuri propaganda. They have their designs on Wantuni also. If one of us falls, it will be a domino effect. If Solentia must stand alone against this kind of aggression, we must be as prepared as possible. Here is my plege to you who oppose the measure. The current law states: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option. I will personally vote to change it back to that, once this crisis is over, if we have unanimous support of this bill. |
| Date | 04:33:34, December 13, 2007 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | Since the threat of war has been averted, I'll prove my word and change our vote to Nay. |
| Date | 11:34:24, December 13, 2007 CET | From | New NationalistParty for Peoples Good | To | Debating the Threat of war |
| Message | and so do we. after all we don't want to have a police state |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 56 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 239 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 130 |
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