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Bill: OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence
Details
Submitted by[?]: 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2518
Description[?]:
| Alright, since Sekowo is made up primarily of five different cultures it makes sense that the names of the cities in the different cultural spheres w/should reflect that. The top five cultures are, from largest to smallest; -Greco-Roman -Nordic -Gao-Showa/Japanese -Kli'kut/Amerindian -Olmec (Only in a South-West Undarro) So what is everyones thoughts on the cultures which, (apart from the Olmec) are the official cannon cultures of Sekowo. As well as the idea of renaming cities in he regions the culture is dominant to more adequately mirror the cultural influence. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:31:47, December 13, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | While we do not attempt to presume that the Normand population is dominant in Sekowo yet, they have clearly immigrated in significant numbers in Undarro recently, and are becoming a significant minority in that District. We'd like to know what other ethnic groups are particularly present in Undarro. |
| Date | 08:38:08, December 13, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Apart from the French/Normand population (naturally in the Sekowo/Lourenne border region of Undarro), the primary ethnic groups represented in Undarro are the Greco-Roman, Gao-Showa/Japanese, Kli'kut/Amerindian and the Olmec, though the Olmec's influence is more an open question right now. |
| Date | 03:30:58, December 14, 2007 CET | From |  Imperial Pluralism Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | This looks pretty good, but we think that there would be some significant mixing between the cultural zones, especially considering how these groups have been in existence for so long. Perhaps a smaller number of less distinct cultures would be more realistic. |
| Date | 03:57:11, December 14, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | BTW, the Normands in Sekowo are distinct from the French population. They have different (though similar) cultural backgrounds, and speak a distinct (though related) language. They are quite fed up of being lumped in with an ethnicity which, historically, they have been at war with at times, and with which they do not identify. |
| Date | 04:18:34, December 14, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Well, we'll leave the Francophe population up to you and CeC. |
| Date | 05:22:46, December 14, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Francophone* |
| Date | 08:13:22, December 14, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | They're not Francophone, either, inherently |
| Date | 02:10:38, December 15, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Well if they speak French primarily, we're considering them Francophone. Just like we consider all the different dialects of English Anglophone. |
| Date | 09:18:05, December 15, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | They don't speak French. They speak Normand. I' n'prchent pon Franais; i' prchent touos l'Nouormand, achteu et trjours. |
| Date | 14:08:54, December 15, 2007 CET | From | Chattes en Chaleur | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | I too don't want to push for an over-representation of francophones with all of the rich history and diversity Sekowo has but if we could acknowledge a larger presence of francophones and let a city have french name and influence and it will be my party's hq. I agree with the NPP that they do have a distinct language, but that can be taken care of more with the linguistics bill that was created a little while ago. The small amount who speak Normand at home would surely speak French ,or one of the even more popular languages. On culture we share some very common roots from the past. Even though there are differences in customs and history since that time, I think these differences can be overlooked and we can recognize the Normands as a minority subset of francophones. This would make it simpler in a Sekowo that already has so many distinct cultures. |
| Date | 14:19:30, December 15, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Well, yes, very few Normands are monolingual. But, considering the linguistic diversity of Sekowo, I am guessing that very few Sekowans are monolingual, particularly very few of those who speak minority languages natively. OOC: Normans in real life have an interesting position, as some of them are French, and as such are French-Norman bilingual; while others are Channel Islanders, and as such are English-Norman bilingual. "Real" Norman actually contains several major dialectal groups which may differ to varying degrees, although all are mutually comprehensible. In general, while French and Norman share many words and features, the two are not mutually comprehensible in speech. Many dialects of Norman are written artificially similar to French, however, and so they are easier to read. If you'd like to see more written Norman in action, check out the Norman-language Wikipedia (nrm.wikipedia.org). For the most part, all articles are in either Jrriais or Cotentinais dialects. |
| Date | 23:58:50, December 15, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Alright alright, so they're seperate languages, we conciede the point. Orestes is the only Lourenne-Sekowo border city, so that would be the best place to set-up as the capital of the Francophone.Normand culture, since Lourenne is a French country. Also, this whole thread is OOC, so you don't need to add that. |
| Date | 01:33:27, December 16, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Ah, right. |
| Date | 08:29:28, December 19, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | So, anyone have an idea how to specifically divide this up? So far the things that can be seen is that Hikhala has a Nordic background. The coastal parts of Lorrod are Greco-Roman. The South-Eastern border has a mixture of Kli'kut/Amerindian and Gao-Showa/Japanese cultures. The Sekowo/Lourenne border area, especially to the North has a Francophone culture. Hasowar is basically a mixture, though Kasmenai has a considerable Japanese and Nordic population. The rest of the country is really undefined. |
| Date | 08:59:01, December 19, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | The entire district of Undarro could be made heavily French and Normand. |
| Date | 09:20:58, December 19, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Undarro is primarily Amerindian and Japanese in the East because alot of Kli'kut and Gao-Shows live in the plains to the East from there. |
| Date | 12:52:19, December 19, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Well, the rest of it, then. |
| Date | 07:46:08, December 21, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | The Olmec live in Part of South-West Undarro. |
| Date | 09:15:40, December 21, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Well, all of Undarro except for the Southwest and the East. |
| Date | 07:28:58, December 23, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | I'm working on a culture map now to make this easier. I've done Undarro first, since it's the most complex. Map; http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1682/culturemapundarrofc6.png |
| Date | 08:56:46, December 23, 2007 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | What does grey represent? |
| Date | 10:13:09, December 23, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | Oops, I knew I was forgetting one. Grey represents the Olmec. |
| Date | 06:22:42, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Sekowo | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | We should have many nations. |
| Date | 06:27:48, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Sekowo | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | wouldn't it make sense to have this more based around the climate as adaption would have a role determining what the native population and then the migration as well. |
| Date | 18:31:30, January 05, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | There is ONE nation with five regions and 25 sub-regions. And it is more or less, The Olmec live in the Sub-tropical south, the Nordic live in the cooler Northern Mountains, the Kli'kut and Gao-Showa don't really live in any one climate, the Greco-Roman people's live along the coastal areas. The French live in South Sekowo do to the fact that Lourenne is a French country. |
| Date | 17:38:36, January 16, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultures and Regional Influence |
| Message | This discussion fulfilled its purpose. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 658 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 92 |
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