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Bill: Pontesi Coup D'Etat
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jakanian Imperial Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2504
Description[?]:
| We have received the following message from the acting Foreign Minister of Pontesi Commonwealth, James Kirk. "Friends, The Black Movement, a Fascist Movement, has risen in our country, brainwashed our Atabeg, and has caused her to lead troops against her own people, hold the Cabinet and our High Court hostage, and dissolve our Constitution: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=162594 She is also intending to withdraw from the MCTO and support segregation. I urgently ask for aid in this crisis." Sir James Kirk, Chancellor of Foreign Affairs Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth ___________________________________________________________________ Because we are still actively involved in the region, we should attempt to protect Beiteynu if attacked. What should we do? George Falco Foreign Minister of United Jakania |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:01:08, December 17, 2007 CET | From |  Wessex High Imperial Party | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | Mr Falco: I fear we have both been played, sir. Once the Fascists came into power, the Atabeg, the ETPRP, and the ONCP teamed up together to completely undermine all the advances we made recently. They have also moved to withdraw from MCTO and enforce segregation. Anti-semintism and Homophobia are rampant: We cannot locate the Chancellor of Education, Majister Ludi Joseph Knecht! I have arrived in Tadraki with the Chancellor of Justice, Portia di Venicci, and the magistrates on our High Court. We have come under the protection of loyalist Simon Templar, Chancellor of Internal Affaris--but we are far, now from Lerna and our government buildings. We urgently ask for the followingL -- emergency aid for all hurt and wounded -- food, clothing and shelter for the 100,000,000s of anti-fascist evacuees -- a base for Templar's operations -- safe haven for Chancellor di Venicci and for myself, Kirk -- Magister Ludi Knecht has been lost to the fascists; i repeat, his motorcade has been diverted and he has been lost to the fascists! We are not sure where our party leader is at this point: we request assistance. -- James Kirk, Chancellor of Foreign Affairs Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth |
| Date | 11:12:07, December 17, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | I said we should aid the UUP and grant their demands. In light of the situation, we are looking into moving our base of operations to Beiteynu for our own safety. I don't know if the fascist government will continue to support the Peace Accord. We must fulfill our end of keeping the peace, although it is quite uneasy right now. I request that we consider sending - another aircraft carrier task force - 50,000 to 100,000 more men - a couple heavy armor divisions - authorization of Supreme Jakanian Special Forces (SJSF) to recover Magister Ludi Knecht The above is only for the Peace Accord, we cannot get involved personally with the internal strife in Pontesi, for the opposition is quite weak and there is no support. George Falco, Foreign Minister |
| Date | 11:54:58, December 17, 2007 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | We'll respect the peace accord and request that the MCTO don't attempt to interfere in our internal politic. Dame Andrea Belknap OPC MP, Atabeg Accipitrum and Chancellor of Defense |
| Date | 20:08:57, December 17, 2007 CET | From | Secularist Socialist Party | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | The JSP agrees with the Foreign Minister, we should grant there wishes and send the Military aid. |
| Date | 01:27:30, December 18, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | "Pontesi has already broke the Peace Accord by violating Article 10, regarding equal rights in the protectorates for Jewish People. We ask the Jakanian Government to enforce the MCTO treaty and remove them from the protectorates where they abuse and murder our People, since we believe the present Beiteynu Government will be too weak willed to do so." -Mordechai Eitam, HaLeumit Tikvah militia leader |
| Date | 02:51:33, December 18, 2007 CET | From | Wessex High Imperial Party | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | From a secret, undisclosed location: "We have learned that the former Chancellor of Education Magister Knecht's lover, Herman Hesse, as well as his guards, has been burned alive by a Fascists inside the Pontesi border, and that Magister Knecht is now missing. We fear he is dead as well. We note that the new government in Pontesi has withdrawn its membership from the MCTO and ask that Jakania and the MCTO proceed with caution because the Black Movement in Pontesi is ruthless and the people are still involved in civil war. We will fight against the Fascists; will Jakania and Beiteynu please supply emergency assistance to the Pontesi people who have crossed the border with us into Tadraki." -- Sir James Kirk -- Simon Templar -- Portia di Venicci and the High Court of Pontesi |
| Date | 06:46:48, December 18, 2007 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | We ask that the current MCTO and Jakania leader refrain from interfering in our internal affairs. All of the articles in the peace accord have yet to be broken and we request that you don't make any attempt to armed the current resistance. We believe in the policy of one country two system and will not change the current governing of the protectorate. Any attempt to armed the UUP or any other militia in Pontesi will be considered as a declaraion of war. - Dame Andrea Belknap OPC MP, Atabeg Accipitrum and Chancellor of Defense. |
| Date | 16:21:08, December 18, 2007 CET | From | Brmékai Krsyiji Prta | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | "Then, so long as the protectorates remain under seperate rule and the treaty remains unbroken, we urge the MCTO not to interfere with the internal situation of Pontesi proper, since it will get in the way of the Black Movements very busy task of butchering its own people. However we would see it as appropriate to increase troop strength in Tadraki." -Mordechai Eitam |
| Date | 19:02:38, December 18, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | The government of Jakania is still undecided on a course of action. To clarify any misunderstanding, the Pontesian protectorates are administer separately from regular Pontesi governing body. So far, HeLeumit Tikvah's declaration of Pontesi breaking article 10 is not concrete. Article 10 only covers the protectorates, not the Pontesi proper. Jakania and the MCTO will not, I repeat, will not interfere in any internal situation in Pontesi. We will not armed any militias. An increased MCTO presence is being requested by me, to prevent any invasion of Beiteynu by any third-party peacekeepers in Pontesi. Emergency aid to all fleeing Pontesi refugees in Tadraki is in order. George Falco Foreign Minister |
| Date | 00:38:43, December 19, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | Now, any Jakanian parties need to say something right now so state anything for or against! |
| Date | 01:45:37, December 19, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | We're not sure what to do. We'll go with what the majority of the Council agrees with until further notice |
| Date | 03:50:46, December 19, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | So the following I request: - addition of another aircraft carrier task force; with 3 attack subs - 50,000 - 70,000 troops - two heavy armor divisions - use of Supreme Jakanian Special Forces (SJSF); aid in recovery of Minister of Education, who is missing. - Emergency Aid to Pontesi refugees in Tadraki - Safe haven for important UUP officials - no weapon exports to any anti-fascist militias - Declaration of neutral stance in Pontesi civil war - Diplomatic solution to situation We cannot Selucian or Dorvik 'peacekeepers' start excursions in Tadraki, the area is for Beiteynu to deal with now, not for Pontesi-supporting peacekeepers. That is why the DMZ exists on the Pontesi / Beiteynu border. I haven't heard much for the various Jakanian parties, I am assuming they support my proposals, so prove me wrong. George Falco, Foreign Minister |
| Date | 03:53:52, December 20, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the Pontesi Coup D'Etat |
| Message | Vote yes = support of action outlined above and can request changes at a later date The Selucians have claimed they took over the DMZ with three brigades, but that is nearly impossible with our 8 - 10 divisions there. Us- 80,000 to 100,000 troops Them - Three brigades OOC: Under modern military rules, this is how it works One division = 10,000 to 20,000 troops One Brigade = 1,500 to 3,200 troops |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 146 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 64 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 40 |
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