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Bill: Hold the Line
Details
Submitted by[?]: Regional Acronym Political Establishment
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2503
Description[?]:
| Love isn't always on time. No, No, No. Isn't it time to give our people the power back? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on public nudity.
Old value:: Public nudity is illegal and prosecuted as a civil offence.
Current: There are no laws with regards to public nudity, it is allowed.
Proposed: There are no laws with regards to public nudity, it is allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Displays of public affection and obscenity laws.
Old value:: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Current: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Proposed: There are no laws regarding obscene public acts.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on sexual relations.
Old value:: Sexual relations are only legal for procreation.
Current: Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.
Proposed: Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:50:50, December 19, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the Hold the Line |
| Message | Not too long ago CAM proposed legislation that addressed the issues in RAPE's 3 articles in this bill. CAM's bill passed and that made it illegal to be naked in public, to have sex in public, and to have sex for any means other than procreation. CAM supports family values, a return to the nuclear family, and as such it cannot support any legislation to the contrary. CAM admires RAPE's intention of returning some rights to the people of Telamon. However, those people elected members of all our political parties to the Telamon Parliament to legislate on behalf of the people. The people of Telamon subscribe to the beliefs, some or all, of the parties they supported. As such, the people of Telamon want public sex, gay sex, and public nudity to be illegal. This bill is directly against the wishes of the people of Telamon and flies in the face of Telamon's best interest. |
| Date | 06:12:20, December 19, 2007 CET | From | Regional Acronym Political Establishment | To | Debating the Hold the Line |
| Message | We hold the same values it seems. Rape hates fags as much as anyone, but we value personal responsibility above all. We trust that the people will choose to live clean lives of their own accord, not because the government threatens to jail them if they do not. |
| Date | 11:13:09, December 19, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Constitutional People's Party | To | Debating the Hold the Line |
| Message | Same here the DPP supports the TNCP and the CAM in it's values |
| Date | 20:54:08, December 19, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the Hold the Line |
| Message | CAM objects to RAPE using the derogatory term "fag" to homosexuals. CAM does not hate homosexuals or anyone else. CAM does not, and is supported by the people of Telamon, support homosexual's life style and choices on this matter. CAM hopes that the added legal deterrent will help those in violation of these laws to see the error of their ways. Hoping people will "live clean lives of their own accord" is all well and good but at the same time we don't expect people to not murder, rape, and pillage other people just because. We have laws to ensure that people will not murder, rape and pillage. Responsible government, which our parliament is, must see this and act accordingly. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 343 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 407 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy has been running since 2005. Dorvik was Particracy's first nation, the Dorvik Social Democrats the first party and the International Greens the first Party Organisation. |
| Random quote: "What are you trying to protect heterosexual marriages from? There isn't a limited amount of love in Iowa. It isn't a non-renewable resource. If Amy and Barbara or Mike and Steve love each other, it doesn't mean that John and Mary can't." - Ed Fallon |