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Bill: Consentual Organ Donation

Details

Submitted by[?]: Tukarali Graenix Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2509

Description[?]:

This bill simply states that consent from someone is to be obtained before they donate their organs. This changes from the value of assumption.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date03:35:03, December 26, 2007 CET
FromMonacelli Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
Messagethis is a debate between science and the general idea of personal liberty. we dont know yet.

Date05:50:36, December 26, 2007 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageWe oppose. By the current law, if a person is so callous as to not want their organs to be used to save the lives of other people, then they can take actions to stop that. There is still unlimited personal choice. This proposed law would restrict the organ pool, making life worse off for all citizens.

Date07:49:34, December 26, 2007 CET
FromTukarali Graenix Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageYou only give half of the story. With the current law a patient's organs can be taken without their approval. There are a lot of things we can do in this country to save lives. We could totally oppress our people and put them in government camps, survey them 24/7, and the list goes on.

Date17:39:53, December 26, 2007 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageWe'll support.

Date00:12:36, December 27, 2007 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageWhy should we need their consent? Once a person is dead, they're not using them any more. If they feel strongly enough, they can opt out. The difference between the current law and the government camps and such, is that under the current law, people can still choose what they want. The current law is the fairest balance between a person's right to deprive other people of life through callous unreasonableness, and saving the life of an injured person.

Date00:41:00, December 27, 2007 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageSo if you are having surgery, you think it right that they can rip out an organ to give it to someone who needs it? If they decide to take a kidney from you because your blood type matches someone who needs a kidney transplant, under current law, they can legally do so.

Date00:41:30, December 27, 2007 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageWith the proposed law, they can no longer do that and that is why we support.

Date05:52:47, December 27, 2007 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageAh, no they can't. Organ donations are only from dead people. Idiot.

Date16:17:06, December 27, 2007 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageHAHAHAHA!! You are the idiot one. How many live people donate organs? Many. For hearts and liver...yes it is dead people's organs that are used but for lungs and kidneys? One does not need to be dead to donate them. Idiot.

Date00:00:48, December 28, 2007 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageYes, but this bill obviously doesn't concern organs from someone living.

Date14:46:27, December 28, 2007 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageProve it fool.

Date20:57:03, December 29, 2007 CET
FromMonacelli Party
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageSimple answer....Court of Appeals.

Date21:54:08, December 29, 2007 CET
FromGreenish Liberal Democratic Socialists
ToDebating the Consentual Organ Donation
MessageIt has always been the assumption that this organ thingy was to clarify wether it was ok to use the ogans when a patient who has no chances to survive anymore,.. not to plunder someones kidneys, lung and/or liver when a patient is just in the hospital for a day for a routine check-up or a broken leg or something like that.

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Total Seats: 130

no
     

Total Seats: 369

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    Total Seats: 0


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