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Bill: Bodies and Words
Details
Submitted by[?]: Island Moderate Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2509
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Protection of original works of technology and arts.
Old value:: Technology and art are part of the commons and are not protected by copyright.
Current: Works of techology and art have limited copy protection.
Proposed: Works of techology and art have limited copy protection.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Current: Gambling is illegal unless taking place in a licensed casino.
Proposed: Gambling is legal, but only in private homes and casinos with special licences.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The right for a person to prostitute himself or herself.
Old value:: Prostitution is legal and a recognized profession.
Current: Prostitution is illegal.
Proposed: Prostitution is legal but not recognized under government employment regulation policy.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The teacher's right to discipline children.
Old value:: Discipline levels are set by schools.
Current: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Proposed: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:14:45, December 30, 2007 CET | From | Island Moderate Party | To | Debating the Bodies and Words |
| Message | 1. My work is MY work. not yours. Copyrights are a must. 2. Gambling needs some regulating. People don't always know what's best for themselves. 3. Does article 3 really need an explanation? Prostituion should NEVER be considered a recognized profession. Young women should NEVER look at prositution as normal and accepted. It is a LAST RESORT, and even then a tragedy. Young women deserves the opportunities that are available without the stain of prostitution an a possible branch of work. 4. We can't have some schools having no punishments and others beating the kids half to death. |
| Date | 22:58:52, December 30, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Bodies and Words |
| Message | We would have accepted this bill if only article 2 and 3 were present. |
| Date | 13:40:25, December 31, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Bodies and Words |
| Message | Firstly. might we request that our colleagues in the newly formed IMP actually write bill descriptions, this will allow the Chamber to fully realise the effects that the laws that our colleagues are attempting to introduce. Secondly, before making grandiose statements about what is wrong with our laws perhaps they should look at previous bills to understand why such legislation was originally introduced. We will now list the reasons for our opposition for this unconsidered bill: 1. Prostitution is a recognised profession because as such the work of the men and women within the industry can be fully regulated and the safety of those involved, and of those taking advantage of such services, can be more securely controlled. Allowing prostitution and then not providing it with the safe guards from government employment regulation makes the work a tragedy, something it should not be seen as. Prostitutes are highly paid and well respected within our communities, why make them seem to be something they are not. We also would like to point out that prostitutes are not always women and so the IMP has shown their ignorance over the issue at hand. 2. We agree that people do not always know what is best for themselves but gambling is not as harmful as people believe. Moreover, limiting gambling in the ways espoused in this bill will cause harm to the industry as a whole (severely restricting available employment) and will not stop people from spending any amount of money they wish due to the availability of gambling within their own homes without the regulations that would stifle the casino's. 3. By allowing discipline levels to be set by the schools themselves rather than forcing them to follow "non-contact" forms, which have been shown to have very little effect on repeat offenders, allows schools to modify their discipline levels according to what harm the child has caused. Moreover, those schools may not "beat the kids half to death" as there have been limitations included within the article that introduced this legislation ( see: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=130965 ). 4. Works of technology and art do not have copyright in order to accelerate not only production but further innovation. To believe that a person, or persons, are not paid for their work due to the lack of copyright is foolhardy. Moreover, to take the position that "My work is MY work" is ignorant to the nth degree and only increases limitations to innovation rather than encouraging it and so leaves our country in the doldrums whilst other accelerate in their innovative and creative works. We would also point out that in a relatively recent poll, the majority of our citizens voted for the current legislation rather than changing it to something different. |
| Date | 07:01:32, January 01, 2008 CET | From | Island Moderate Party | To | Debating the Bodies and Words |
| Message | Your extreme leftist positions sadden me. |
| Date | 07:02:44, January 01, 2008 CET | From | Island Moderate Party | To | Debating the Bodies and Words |
| Message | Also, your reason against my gambling article is evasive and provides no backing against my proposal. The industry would nto be damaged whatsoever, casinos will be unharmed. I don't see where you're getting this idea from. |
| Date | 07:05:27, January 01, 2008 CET | From | Island Moderate Party | To | Debating the Bodies and Words |
| Message | The majority of prostitutes are female, and many men do not prostitute themselves for the same reason women do. You are the one who shows the ignorance. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 348 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 52 |
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