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Bill: Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511
Details
Submitted by[?]: Front Canrillaise
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2513
Description[?]:
| Realising that the last national census was conducted in 2424, the Government of Rildanor has conducted a new and updated count of the country's demographic make-up. ******************************************************************************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************************************************************************** OLD FIGURES: Rildanor Census, 2415 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=122587 ETHNICITY * French (Rildanorian): 109 195 890 -- 91% * Majatran: 6 032 037 -- 5% * Mordusian, Aldurian, Kanjoran: 2 438 224 -- 2% * Mixed/Other: 2 278 274 -- 2% RELIGION * Orthodox Catholic: 84 448 520 -- 70% * Atheist or none: 18 096 111 -- 15% * Other Christians: 8 589 456 -- 7% * Muslim: 8 444 852 -- 7% * Other: 1 206 407 -- 1% LANGUAGE (mother tongue) * French: 115 735 024 -- 95% * Other: 6 091 317 -- 5% GENDER * At birth: 1.05 male(s)/female * Under 15 years: 1.051 male(s)/female * 15-64 years: 1.01 male(s)/female * 65 years and over: 0.748 male(s)/female * Total population: 0.977 male(s)/female AGE * 0-14 years: 17.3% (male 10 967 383/female 10 824 189) * 15-64 years: 69.2% (male 42 604 723/female 42 490 839) * 65 years and over: 13.5% (male 6 927 035/female 8 575 972) LITERACY (age 15 and over that can read and write) * Total population: 99% * Male: 99% * Female: 99% ******************************************************************************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************************************************************************** NEW FIGURES: Rildanor Census, 2511 ETHNICITY * French (Rildanorian): 151 205 190 -- 95% * Mordusian, Aldurian, Kanjoran: 3 438 224 -- 2% * Majatran: 3 182 037 -- 2% * Mixed/Other: 1 278 274 -- 1% RELIGION (**Figures include both practising and non-practising**) * Orthodox Catholic: 130 878 820 -- 82% * Atheist or none: 15 996 811 -- 10% * Other Christians: 6 959 654 -- 4% * Muslim: 4 040 100 -- 3% * Other: 1 599 407 -- 1% LANGUAGE (mother tongue) * French: 155 975 020 -- 98% * Other: 3 224 155 -- 2% GENDER * Under 15 years: 1.000 male(s)/female * 15-64 years: 1.003 male(s)/female * 65 years and over: 0.853 male(s)/female * Total population: 0.975 male(s)/female AGE * 0-14 years: 17.3% (male 13 946 453/female 13 934 157) * 15-64 years: 65.2% (male 51 643 743/female 51 450 856) * 65 years and over: 17.5% (male 12 437 998/female 14 576 782) LITERACY (age 15 and over that can read and write) * Total population: 99% * Male: 99% * Female: 99% |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:16:01, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Front Nationaliste Royaliste | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | The population of Moslems is far too high. It was not long ago that we expelled all of them. |
| Date | 04:36:32, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Parti Radical et Radical-Socialiste | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | The Government never expelled anyone. Other religions were outlawed for a brief wile, but not all the agencies were supportive of the policy |
| Date | 06:44:18, January 05, 2008 CET | From |  Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | When compared to the previous census, this new one actually has a much reduced muslim and Majatran population, mostly due to the strict immigration laws now in place and the instability over the years regarding religion and ethnicity. Since the laws still allow the existence of other religions then it is very possible that many muslims have returned to Rildanor or converted. |
| Date | 19:36:55, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Parti Communiste de Rildanor | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | Probably should have a slightly higher Muslim population (the dramatic drop isn't realistic), but otherwise we support and commend the Parti d'Aristocratie for taking the time to do this. |
| Date | 20:51:14, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Option Citoyenne | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | Nice work. Is 100% literacy even possible though? Given laws restricting women from working in some occupations, maybe there should be a gender gap in literacy of some sort in this census, or more likely the next one. |
| Date | 21:31:47, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | I've raised the Muslim population by a million which is reasonable considering 100 years of sometimes harsh xenophobic policies. The literacy rate has dropped back to 99%. |
| Date | 21:32:45, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | A gender gap in lteracy is not likely as women are not completely banned from education, it's just certain jobs that they cannot perform. |
| Date | 00:48:52, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Front Nationaliste Royaliste | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | Belgium IRL has a literacy rate of 100%, I believe. Anyway, I think that the population of religious minorities should be smaller. For about decade, we lived under the Act of Unifomity and had a compulsory state church. While I admit that emigration back to Rildanor would've occured (but it would've been more difficult due to our xenophobic policies), I still think that the number is inflated. Hell, even the UDL player was trying to get out of Rildanor and flee to Kanjor. |
| Date | 00:50:54, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Front Nationaliste Royaliste | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | Also, why is our Moslem population basically the size of both the "Majatran" and "Mixed/Other" categories? |
| Date | 19:41:13, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | It's certainly possible that those who were forced to convert to Orthodox Catholic have converted back to their original religion. 3% out of 100 is hardly inflated. And besides, the threat of Islam needs to be present in Rildanor if only for interesting RP pruposes. |
| Date | 19:54:53, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Union Démocrate Libertarien | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | There would quite a number of Catholics who would've been alienated by the rampant oppression and dictatorship in the name of their church and would have either become protestants or neutral on the matter. Also, how would 5% of atheists disappear? We opted to stay and fight it out. |
| Date | 20:12:18, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Union Démocrate Libertarien | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | On the other hand, I could just leave Rildanor. |
| Date | 20:13:03, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Front Nationaliste Royaliste | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | Yes, because there are always massive conversions whenever the Church does something that not everyone agrees with. Just like how all of those liberal Catholics in America, Canada, and Western Europe have converted to Calvinism and Buddhism and such because the Church condemns contraception, abortion, and homosexuality. |
| Date | 20:34:34, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Union Démocrate Libertarien | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | My party just doesn't really fit the political landscape of a Crusader State. I mean, it would be a far long shot for a bourbon monarchy but it is most certainly out-of-place in the Kingdom of Jerusalem or Principality of Antioch. |
| Date | 21:19:07, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Option Citoyenne | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | The thing is, if these are the religion figures, it means a lot of Christians are voting for parties that oppose the Church. In fact, half the support of my party must be Christians who want to ban religion entirely. That's a bit odd. The only way I can see to handle it is that there are many members of the Church who oppose the authority of the church -- sort of Quebec in the Quiet Revolution, in other words. It might require role-playing a strong dissident left-Catholic element. (Heck, the majority of Church members would be supporters of leftist economics, given the PSC successes.) |
| Date | 21:51:12, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Front Nationaliste Royaliste | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | I just conducted a few polls: Elections: August 2511 (last) Voters from: Entire Nation Favoured party: Option Citoyenne Participation: Voted Opinion on Religion: Fanatical Secular 14% Extreme Secular 18.8% Convinced Secular 16.8% Moderate Secular 10.9% Secular-leaning 10.9% Religious-leaning 8.3% Moderate Religious 4.3% Convinced Religious 3.1% Extreme Religious 7.8% Fanatical Religious 5.2% That means that 28.6% of your voters are religious, with 16.1% being fanatical, extreme, or convinced. Opinion on Morality: Fanatical Conservative 6.6% Extreme Conservative 7.4% Convinced Conservative 4.4% Moderate Conservative 8.1% Conservative-leaning 10.6% Progressive-leaning 8.3% Moderate Progressive 12.2% Convinced Progressive 15.4% Extreme Progressive 15.1% Fanatical Progressive 11.9% That means that 34.4% (over a third) of your voters are conservative with regards to morality, with 18.4% being fanatical, extreme, or convinced. |
| Date | 03:26:17, January 07, 2008 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | The religion figures include both practising and non-practising. It is most likely that many Orthodox Catholics are not religious but can still be qualified as such. |
| Date | 16:05:39, January 08, 2008 CET | From | Option Citoyenne | To | Debating the Recensement national - Rildanor Census, 2511 |
| Message | That's my thought yes. Many church members are "nominal" Christians only -- since the numbers of people whoa re actually religious is dictated by the game engine, and is not really a solid majority. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 218 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 57 |
| Random fact: Players who deliberately attempt to present a misleading picture of the nation's current RP laws will be subject to sanction. |
| Random quote: "Men's natures are alike, it is their habits that carry them far apart." - Confucius |