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Bill: Welfare Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Tukarali Graenix Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2513
Description[?]:
| Low-income families are not the only ones who need assistance in our nation. Parents of large families may not be classified as low-income, but may struggle supporting such large families. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:28:53, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | We'll oppose. If a family is large then they are on their own. |
| Date | 23:44:16, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | If a family is not low income, they do not need state support, regardless of the size of the family. We shouldn't just throw money at them. |
| Date | 23:46:03, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | We'll definately support |
| Date | 00:06:30, January 07, 2008 CET | From | Tukarali Graenix Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | You all must not be getting what I am saying. The more children you have, the more people you have to support. If a parent worked 3 jobs to support a large family, they still could be struggling to get by. Of course they make more money than someone with low income, but they made need aid just as much, or even more. |
| Date | 01:24:59, January 07, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | Exactly how big is a large family? We find it hard to believe that a parent, working 3 jobs, where their combined income puts them firmly in a middle income range, could not support a family of any reasonable size. We cannot give out benefits to every family with a couple of children simply because there are a few parents who have had far too many children than their income can support. |
| Date | 02:44:54, January 07, 2008 CET | From | Monacelli Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | Uhm, so we are wondering why we are giving money to families which have had more children than they can support?? They reproduce without restraint and then cant handle the financial burdens. Then we sweep in and give them undeserved federal money to assist in their irresponsible behavior where they increase the number of people (which we already do not have enough jobs for). We oppose. Those that abuse the welfare system blatanly should not be aided. Sorry, we feel conservative on this issue. |
| Date | 03:23:53, January 07, 2008 CET | From | Tukarali Graenix Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | Excuse me, but our nation actively promotes population growth, and we don't give out contraceptives or offer discounts. Why do we ask so much of our people and then abandoned them when they get in too deep? Abuse can come from either side. You can't just restrict one group just because it is different from the current. |
| Date | 04:25:50, January 07, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | Ah Graenix. We do not supply them no but private businesses do. |
| Date | 01:45:35, January 08, 2008 CET | From | JDW Tukarali Greens Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | oppose on general principle it sends the wrong signal to families that procreation = more money from the welfare state |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 153 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 278 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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