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Bill: City Renaming Based on Cultures
Details
Submitted by[?]: 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2530
Description[?]:
| This is actually the primary reason for the culture bill we created awhile back. As it stands most of Sekowo's cities were named by the Archonic dictatorship of the past. Because Sekowo has such a diverse set of cultures we feel it is appropriate to rename the cities based on their dominant culture. NOTE: Kasmenai will not be renamed since it is multi-cultural, and has it's own Historic name. Sybarillis, Hyperion and Pelias shall continue to have the same name as they fit well within there culture. The following is a list of the different cultures and what cities would fall under each cultural area (roughly); Greco-Roman: *Finished* Nordic: *Finished* Gao-Showa: *Finished* Kli'kut: *Finished* French/Normand: *Finished* Olmec: *Finished* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following cities have new names chosen; -Carcosa -Hypermnestra -Katanus -Gelai -Skydronoi -Antikleia -Daunas -Hyblaia -Kyme -Leotinoi -Kroton -Taros -Akragonion -Rhegion ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ With the passing of this bill this debate shall be archived for future reference. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:13:11, January 11, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | May the USMC pick the name for Gelai, as it is our party headquarters. |
| Date | 19:47:24, January 11, 2008 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | That list, is that the cultures the cities are in, or what the names of the cities represent culturally? Because Orestes and Hypermenstra are Greek in origin. Though we like Orestes as it is and that is our city headquarters. |
| Date | 20:39:44, January 11, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | The names currently do not reflect the culture. the list shows what culture zone they are in. The point of this is to ra-name them to something better resembling the zone they are in. |
| Date | 00:11:45, January 12, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | By French/Nordic I assume you mean French/Normand. |
| Date | 00:18:46, January 12, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | For those two, we recommend the names: Hypermenstra - "Saint Hlyi" Orestes - "Ct" |
| Date | 01:38:07, January 12, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Yes, sorry, I meant Normand, I made this list at 7am, so I was a bit tired. |
| Date | 13:08:13, January 12, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | This is gonna be a discussion bill, while another bill will list the cities for voting purposes. |
| Date | 13:54:43, January 12, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Here are my suggestions so far; Nordic -Iselia -Isgard/dengard -Isvengrd -Nrsengard -Valden French: -Lỳore Gao-Showa/Japanese -Shirajuku/Ansatsu-ko/Kirakure -Seritei Kli'kut/Amerindian -Sa'kun -So'suiattle/Kli'kan Olmec -Kuzacotl |
| Date | 13:55:25, January 12, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Aparently it won't do the special 'y', that should have been Lyore. |
| Date | 14:15:53, January 12, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Also, perhaps Drachengold instead of Valden. |
| Date | 14:26:06, January 12, 2008 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | We oppose any change to the name of Orestes, the headquarters of the Free Democratic Party. |
| Date | 14:33:10, January 12, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | We have to admit we like the name Orestes ourselves, and it is French sounding. |
| Date | 17:35:51, January 12, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Shirajuku would be retarded, as -juku indicates a ward of a city. My 2 cents. |
| Date | 19:26:58, January 12, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Orestes is not at all French sounding "Ourts" or "Horts" would be a French sounding equivalent. "Ouorts" might be a Normand equivalent. |
| Date | 19:35:11, January 12, 2008 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Irrespective of that, Orestes is staying. Of that list I also think the following should stay as they are Terina and Carcosa. We should keep some memory of the current national anthem by keeping Carcosa. |
| Date | 19:35:27, January 12, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | I believe we are also the only ones with a major office in Pelias, and we would like to consider changing Pelias' name to something more Normand. |
| Date | 19:38:32, January 12, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | OOC: (To my knowledge, no French city has an accented y. I'm fairly positive no Norman city does, either) |
| Date | 19:49:47, January 12, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | We could always rename Carcosa "Anthem Carcosa" or "Lost Carcosa", in honour of the current anthem. |
| Date | 01:43:11, January 13, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Carcosa is in Hasowar, and is the SCP's capital, so if we're going based it on who uses which capital, it would be SCP's decision. Also, with Lyore (special y) I was more going for one of those French based languages, like they speak in Africa that have some differences. |
| Date | 21:00:49, January 13, 2008 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Seeing as the Treaty is called the Treaty of Terina, and the anthem is about Carcosa, it might be wise to keep those two, that was my line of thinking. |
| Date | 02:28:03, January 14, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | The anthem is going to be changed, and will not mention Carcosa, so that one does'nt matter. Also, Terina is PUA's capital, so it would be up to them what they wanted to change it to. |
| Date | 02:50:43, January 17, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Actually NPP, you never chose a single HQ capital city, something about pluralism and being everywhere. |
| Date | 05:48:56, January 17, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Indeed, but Pelias is one of our regional capitals. Therefore, if no one else has an HQ there, we get preference, eh? |
| Date | 06:04:16, January 17, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Well, it is'nt anymore, it was AUP's, as well as the short lived Sekowan Revolutionary Democratic League. Perhaps you could come up with a name that sounds is a mixture of the Greco-Roman and Normand cultures/languages. Technically Pelias is right smack in the center of the Greco-Roman's original cultural heartland, and many hundreds of miles away from the nearest French/Normand cultural area, however, if you can come up with a good mixture name, we don't have a problem with it. |
| Date | 06:09:51, January 17, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | I'll think of something, then. |
| Date | 11:20:35, January 21, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Anyone have a problem with the following; Leotinoi to Nrsengard Antikleia to Isvengrd Daunaus to Isgard Hyblaia to dengard |
| Date | 20:38:40, January 21, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Mostly no, but can't some of them end in something other than gard? |
| Date | 03:49:28, January 22, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Isvengrd ends in grd. Considering the culture, most old Nordic cities/towns ended in those. Sort of how alot of British towns end in burgh or shire. |
| Date | 04:33:15, January 25, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Everyone ok with the following; Hyperion to Arkadium Kroton to Ionius Taros to Argolia |
| Date | 05:23:20, January 25, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Those names already sound Greco-Roman. Why do they need to be changed? |
| Date | 06:28:13, January 25, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Well Kroton should be obvious, since it sounds so kmuch like Crouton. Taros actually sounds more like an Iberianesque name. Hyperion sounds sort of neo-greco-roman, like when they make latin words in moder times. |
| Date | 06:49:31, January 25, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Also, since I appear to be the Olmec expert (since I'm the onlyone who apparently realizes they exist) I would like to propose that Kyme be renamed Kuzacotl. |
| Date | 07:01:09, January 25, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Is that a Quetzcoatl reference? |
| Date | 00:38:46, January 26, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Indeed it is. OOC: I've always like Quetzacotl for some reason. |
| Date | 01:38:50, January 31, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Anyone have a problem with naming Skydronoi Isvengrd, and than naming Daunas Flamberge? Flamberge means fire sword, and since Daunas is located in Heimdall/Thermoplyae, it's close to Sekowo's largest active volcano, so it would be appropriate. |
| Date | 04:48:37, January 31, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | I have a problem with it; we already renamed Skydronoi. |
| Date | 04:51:49, January 31, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | No, we renamed Leotinoi. |
| Date | 04:55:05, January 31, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the City Renaming Based on Cultures |
| Message | Never mind, I take that back, we did rename Skydronoi. I meant Leotinoi. I get those two confused, sorry. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 435 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 315 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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