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Bill: National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1.
Details
Submitted by[?]: We Say So! Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2043
Description[?]:
| A public advertising campaign is introduced to explain the dangers of smoking to the populace. This is also backed up by a ban on all tobacco advertising of any kind, and the inclusion of prominent public health warnings on packaging. Smoking will also be banned in all Public places and Government owned institutions (a list of which can be found below). Any Public Houses and restaurants that serve food will also be included in the ban, as will all forms of public transport. Those Public Houses, as well as Clubs and Cocktail Bars that do not serve food, are not included within this legislature. The sale of tobacco will be restricted to outlets that have registered for the sales of these products. Those places where smoking is banned: 1. Banks. 2. Educational Facilities. 3. Health care Facilitities. 4. Laundromats. 5. Public Transportation Facilities. 6. Reception Areas. 7. Restaurants. 8. Retail food production and retailing outlets. 9. Retail service establishments. 10. Retail stores. 11. Shopping Malls. 12. Sports arenas. 13. Theatres and Cinemas. 14. Waiting Rooms. A private residence is not a public place, unless it is used as a child care, adult day care, or health facility. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is legal everywhere, at the discretion of the property owner, and is legal in government-owned buildings.
Current: Smoking regulations are to be determined by local governments.
Proposed: Smoking is legal everywhere, at the discretion of the property owner. However, service/employer property owners that allow smoking must provide a separate non-smoking section.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | not recorded | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | Change all refereces to cigarettes and cigars to tobacco so as to prevent people moving to home made cigarettes. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Socialist Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | Agree in general, but on some points I think it is too strict. What do you understand as "public places" ?? I'll not vote for this unless this is more specified. And in the buildings were it is banned there should be a private smoke space, where they don't bother non-smokers. And I also disagree with the proposal to prohibit children to buy it. Things that are "forbidden" only become more attractive, what is exactly what we must avoid. |
| Date | not recorded | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | Public places are designated as: an enclosed area in which the public are invited or in which the public are permitted, including, but not limited to, banks, bars, educational facilities, health care facilities, laundromats, public transportation facilities, reception areas, restaurants, retail food production and marketing outlets, retail service establishments, retail stores, shopping malls, sports arenas, theatres, cinemas and waiting rooms. A private residence is not a public place, unless it is used as a child care, adult day care, or health facility. It is also impossible to contain tobacco smoke in certain areas, and within those areas listed above it will be banned. It would also be rediculous to allow children to purchase tobacco materials. This law is meant to assist in improving public health, not allowing all in sundry to purchase harmful materials. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Socialist Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | I agree with the banning out of the most public places, but not cafés or bars... if this proposal remains unmodified I will vote against... |
| Date | not recorded | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | How about changing that so that some incentive (either making pubs pay to allow smokers or grants to those that don't) to banning smoking. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Socialist Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | Disagree with that too. Makes me think of that in New Yorlk USA bars pubs etc. since one or a few years need a "license" to allow people to dance in these pubs/dancings etc. Now there are only a handfull of places in New York we're you're allowed to dance and they all cost hugely. But even if this point has cometh to an agreement, there still remain the other issues I mentioned above. |
| Date | not recorded | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | How about we agree that tobacco adverting should be banned and health warning should be placed on packing and pass that immediately. Afterwards we can argue the later ideas of selling to children and smoking in public. |
| Date | not recorded | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | Ok, hows about this: we allow smoking in Bars that request a licence to allow smoking, unless they serve food. Cafes, however, remain banned as they serve food, and as such help create an unhealthy atmosphere. We shall, for the moment, remove the limitation of sale to minors which can then be discussed in a second ammendment. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Socialist Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | Even disagree with th license thing. I have the feeling it was only add extra bureaucracy. Taverns, drinking places with some limited food possibilities should also be allowed to smoke there. Restaurants, however, I agree with the prohibition. So be taverns and bars allowed + sales to minors allowed too and leave the rest, I will than back it up, this bill. |
| Date | not recorded | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | We will remove the limitation (for now) on Pubs, Bars and Clubs, as well as the sale to minors. However, the sale of foodstuffs, be they of a limited degree or full restaurant meals, should be covered in the sale legislation. So, to recap, only those public houses, cafes etc. that serve food will have the tobacco ban, those that do not will, for now, be exempt. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Socialist Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | I can agree with this. If you adept the decription of the bill, I will support it. |
| Date | not recorded | From | Socialist Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | I read again... I agree to prohibit with indoor sport arena's, though not outdoor sports arena's. |
| Date | not recorded | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | I agree with the points. As a compromise on outdoor sports stadiums perhaps smoking should only be allowed in specially designated areas? |
| Date | not recorded | From | Socialist Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | if you mean "specially designated areas" as one part of where the spectators can come to sit/stand, then yes. |
| Date | not recorded | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | I would lean toward (as is what happens in most Football stadiums) that smoking is not permitted within the stadium itself (in the seating areas with the rest of the fans over-looking the pitch) but is allowed in the entrance areas, which are accessible at all times should any feel it necessary for a quick smoke. It also should stop peoples enjoyment of the game being effected by people smoking. |
| Date | not recorded | From |  Dorvik Social Democrats | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | Take this to the forum! |
| Date | not recorded | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the National Health Legislation: Article 1, Smoking: Sub-paragrapgh 1. |
| Message | The proposal has been implemented. Lets add it to this and get it passed. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 302 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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