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Bill: No Passage Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Loyalistische Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2525
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Current: All refugees are welcome, regardless of their reason, and given aid in integrating them into the country.
Proposed: No refugees are allowed to enter the country.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:23:04, January 30, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the No Passage Bill |
| Message | This does not mean that we won't allow foreigners to enter Darnussia, we just don't welcome refugees, people with no jobs, education, money nor connects to Darnussia. |
| Date | 07:16:45, January 31, 2008 CET | From | Party for the Republic | To | Debating the No Passage Bill |
| Message | The Darnussian Liberation Army is letting xenophobia get in the way of good economics and human rights. You don't keep potential workers isolated from jobs that Darnussians aren't going to take anyway, and you don't keep refugees under foreign oppression. This alone should convince the DCU and Patriot parties that the DLA does not reflect the values of our great nation, and has no place in government. Jordanna Thompson, DLP Leader |
| Date | 10:13:30, January 31, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the No Passage Bill |
| Message | So, the human-loving DLP thinks we should have a slave-class made from foreigners, who are only good for the jobs Darnussians won't do? That is sick and disgusting. Once again, we are not denying foreigners to enter or work in our country, only refugees, who have no job, money or education. |
| Date | 10:20:42, January 31, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the No Passage Bill |
| Message | And by doing so, we make sure our nation will not become a class-society, where foreigners and refugees are on the bottom. If we take only the educated foreigners, they won't be forced to do all the crappiest jobs. Ofcourse if you have family-ties in our nation, you are also welcome. But refugees, no, they are not, because they won't have much to give. They can sure try to come in as imigrants, but not as refugees. - Rafael Sanz Duran, Head of DLA |
| Date | 17:18:33, January 31, 2008 CET | From | Party for the Republic | To | Debating the No Passage Bill |
| Message | Well, that's why we help integrate them, to avoid a class-based society, and to make sure that their children grow up having the same opportunities as any other Darnussian child. And you are assuming refugees have little to give, even though many have are quite well educated. Should skilled workers who are threatened by their government not be given priority over those who are safe at home? But DLA policy is to let the oppressed suffer and die at home. -Jordanna Thompson DLP Leader |
| Date | 18:08:03, January 31, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the No Passage Bill |
| Message | You don't seem to understand our point. IF THEY HAVE EDUCATION, THEY CAN COME IN AS IMMIGRANTS, NOT AS REFUGEES! IF THEY HAVE SKILLS, THEY CAN COME IN AS IMMIGRANTS! But as refugees we take EVERYONE, criminals, rapists, murderers, thiefs, everyone. As imigrants we can choose. |
| Date | 18:19:11, January 31, 2008 CET | From | New-Revolutionary Communist Party (NRCP) | To | Debating the No Passage Bill |
| Message | A class based society is inevitable if the poisonous Capitalist model survives. The NRCP support a fully open and accepting Darnussia - we cannot promote freedom and then make a free country and exclusive club to which you must be born. We are proud to say that all people of Terra can be a free citizen if they come to Darnussia; we cannot cage freedom. |
| Date | 22:10:29, January 31, 2008 CET | From | Party for the Republic | To | Debating the No Passage Bill |
| Message | We don't have to admit common criminals into Darnussia under a sensible refugee policy. We're talking about those who in danger due to political belief, race, religion, or some similar issue. Jordanna Thompson -DLP Leader |
| Date | 08:25:08, February 01, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the No Passage Bill |
| Message | True, but criminals, rapists, murderes and many more can also be in danger due to political belief, race, religion. If they should go thorugh our immigration process, we can drop out potential threats, as refugees, we can not! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 112 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 150 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 38 |
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