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Bill: Put Things Right 2: Usage and Maintainence of our Military
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Forwardist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2108
Description[?]:
| Those who want to fight for our nation should not be denied the right to do so, and those who do not want to fight should not be forced to do so. our military also exists to protect the nation from enemies across our borders, and should never be used against our people, no matter how dire the situation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Current: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women serve alongside men.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:36:21, September 07, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Put Things Right 2: Usage and Maintainence of our Military |
| Message | I disagree with everything but 3. For article 1: Let's say massive riots break out in a city, leading to the point of all-out revolution. If you change it, the army can't do anything but sit on it's ass and watch. If we keep it, the army will be able to assume controll of the city and prevent the riot from doing any more damage. 2. For the millionth time, they do NOT have to join the army. There is a Civilian National Service. If you weren't aware, that means that they work for the state for a short period of time. They could be put on a national board to make a cure for cancer or something, and have all the resources of the state before them. It will also give them an idea of what the REAL world is like, not just college life. 3. We agree, because everyone has the right to serve the Fatherland in battle. |
| Date | 20:57:42, September 07, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Put Things Right 2: Usage and Maintainence of our Military |
| Message | Even if it weakens our forces? |
| Date | 22:31:47, September 07, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Put Things Right 2: Usage and Maintainence of our Military |
| Message | Having women in our forces would not weaken the Fatherland. It would make us even more powerful. If they are willing to die for our great nation, then let them. Our military needs all the forces it can get. |
| Date | 22:32:43, September 07, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Put Things Right 2: Usage and Maintainence of our Military |
| Message | But, for the greater good, I must vote against this bill. |
| Date | 23:00:31, September 07, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Put Things Right 2: Usage and Maintainence of our Military |
| Message | The presence of women is detrimental to combat effectiveness. |
| Date | 02:12:20, September 08, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Put Things Right 2: Usage and Maintainence of our Military |
| Message | as is your presence to our international standing, but there's only so much i can do about that. adding more troops, however, is clearly not detrimental. |
| Date | 22:45:24, September 08, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Put Things Right 2: Usage and Maintainence of our Military |
| Message | Having the world's second most popular party leading our government harms our international standing? |
| Date | 10:26:05, September 09, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Put Things Right 2: Usage and Maintainence of our Military |
| Message | pointing nukes at every country that even looks at our nation sideways harms our international standing, and having such a votally militarist and tolatitarian party in control is what harms our standing. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 156 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 493 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 101 |
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