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Bill: Bill for the Non-involvement of Government in Association
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2528
Description[?]:
Whereas, it is not the place of the government to define communities, religious or otherwise, Therefore, be it resolved that the government will no longer create gated communities, and Be it further resolved that the government will have no policy concerning a state religion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning gated communities.
Old value:: Both the government and the private sector can set up gated communities.
Current: The private sector can set up gated communities.
Proposed: The private sector can set up gated communities.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 20:53:38, February 04, 2008 CET | From | Solentian People Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Non-involvement of Government in Association |
Message | We do not agree with this proposal at all. We have always had a strictly religious state and it would be a shame to demoralise this through this piece of legislation. I hope we never see a situation where praying in schools is "forbidden" in Solentia and also I hope that we never have a situation where no state religion is recognized as this is one of the morals and stances in which solentian society was built upon. Lady. Nancy Lawson, Supreme President |
Date | 00:14:44, February 05, 2008 CET | From | Independent Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Non-involvement of Government in Association |
Message | We give our support to article 2., but with article 1 we think that it should be up to the school if they want to let them have a teacher lead prayer. Especially if it is in a religious school or if they believe that they should have it in there school. Jack Carver (IP leader) |
Date | 22:09:52, February 06, 2008 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Non-involvement of Government in Association |
Message | The DLP will not seek the passing of the article the IP opposes at this time. Lucretia Paine |
Date | 23:21:51, February 06, 2008 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Bill for the Non-involvement of Government in Association |
Message | The religion of Solentia forms a basis upon which a citizens moral compass may be judged and organised from. We firmly stand that ALL citizens have the right to worship in the national religion, this should not be something taken away from them. |
Date | 23:38:00, February 06, 2008 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Non-involvement of Government in Association |
Message | We find the CMP's response strange, to say the least. There is nothing in this proposal that would deny any citizen the right to worship. The DLP only wishes that no religion be afforded a special status by the government. Why do this? Is the CMP suggesting that Solentians' faith is so frail that they would lose it if we took away the stamp of approval of a human institution? |
Date | 00:16:18, February 07, 2008 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Bill for the Non-involvement of Government in Association |
Message | Ecclesiastical debate and policy is not your forté. |
Date | 17:08:41, February 07, 2008 CET | From | Solentian People Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Non-involvement of Government in Association |
Message | I am reluctantly going to vote yes. I agree with article 1 but not 2. So I will support your bill. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 180 | |||
no | Total Seats: 223 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 22 |
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