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Bill: PLMO Proposal 53 - Child Benefit
Details
Submitted by[?]: Anarchistes pour une Société Libre
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2528
Description[?]:
| A bill to increase government welfare spending. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:44:51, February 07, 2008 CET | From |  Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the PLMO Proposal 53 - Child Benefit |
| Message | Whatever happened to debate before the voting process?? |
| Date | 02:46:04, February 07, 2008 CET | From | Anarchistes pour une Société Libre | To | Debating the PLMO Proposal 53 - Child Benefit |
| Message | When it rains, it pours. |
| Date | 02:49:14, February 07, 2008 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the PLMO Proposal 53 - Child Benefit |
| Message | Well it is clear that you do intend on compromising or negotiating with any parties on these matters. We really do not like the idea of just putting bills up for a vote without hearing what other parties think. Parties usually have allowed a few months of debate. This is really against the Jelbanian tradition. |
| Date | 02:50:35, February 07, 2008 CET | From | Anarchistes pour une Société Libre | To | Debating the PLMO Proposal 53 - Child Benefit |
| Message | You are aware that the only reason we are proposing these bills are to increase our support base? Why would we allow debate on that? |
| Date | 02:51:21, February 07, 2008 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the PLMO Proposal 53 - Child Benefit |
| Message | Because it is the respectful thing to do. |
| Date | 02:53:08, February 07, 2008 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the PLMO Proposal 53 - Child Benefit |
| Message | However - you are not the only party guilty of this in recent years. |
| Date | 02:53:32, February 07, 2008 CET | From | Anarchistes pour une Société Libre | To | Debating the PLMO Proposal 53 - Child Benefit |
| Message | I don't follow - please make the connection between debating something I'm going to vote on as-as anyway and respect. |
| Date | 05:46:46, February 07, 2008 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the PLMO Proposal 53 - Child Benefit |
| Message | What we are saying it is respectful to allow parties to develop their positions on certain proposals through the debate process. Also - this would potentially cause more parties to vote with you by convincing them that you have the better perspective/idea. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 169 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 332 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Party candidates for head of state elections are not visible to the public. This means that you cannot see who will run and who will not, which adds another strategic element to the elections. |
| Random quote: “Their cheap talk of the 'greater good' is a thinly concealed excuse for subordinating the people to the institutionalized violence that is the state.†- Margaret Woodhall, former Dranian politician |