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Bill: Saiserist Decree of 2530: Death Penalty
Details
Submitted by[?]: Saiserist League
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2530
Description[?]:
| A necessary wartime measure to keep the populace in line, and in general an effective measure for securing peace and order within the State |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is applied to most minor and all major criminal offences.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:01:34, February 10, 2008 CET | From | People Party | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2530: Death Penalty |
| Message | This law simply violates any logical-democratic-human sense. |
| Date | 20:05:23, February 10, 2008 CET | From | Saiserist League | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2530: Death Penalty |
| Message | If they fear Death as their inevitable penalty, they will commit no crimes. If every crime was punishable by Death, there would be no crime. |
| Date | 20:17:27, February 10, 2008 CET | From | People Party | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2530: Death Penalty |
| Message | "On crimes and punishment" by Cesare Beccaria, a book written in 1764, explains how you are a fool. Among the arguments he makes against the death penalty is the fact that the state, to punish a crime, it makes one in turn. And the law of this State, which is nothing more than the sum of the rights of citizens, can not have such power. In fact, no person - says Beccaria - would permit others to kill him/her. |
| Date | 21:52:43, February 10, 2008 CET | From | Saiserist League | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2530: Death Penalty |
| Message | An Individual may not have the power to make such a judgment. The State has power all-encompassing, superseding any questioning. Incidentally, for proper debate one should explain how it is a "crime". Murder is not sanctioned by the State. Execution is. Morality is entirely subjective and, in reality, morality is whatever is writ into law. |
| Date | 22:53:33, February 10, 2008 CET | From | People Party | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2530: Death Penalty |
| Message | Fortunately other parties think, as I do, that the death penalty for "most minor and all major criminal offences" is an horrible crime against humanity. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 159 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 194 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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