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Bill: Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2109
Description[?]:
| The AAP believes that it is illegal, immoral, and an infringement of citizen rights, to allow public gathering, in any form, to be limited on government whim. Thus, the AAP suggests two modifications to the Likatonian code: 1) The police lose the ability to disperse groups on 'suspicion' grounds. Groups should be allowed to gather, until risk is PROVEN. 2) The allowance of curfews be repealed. Punishment for individuals should be an individual-matter. The AAP believes it is wrong to impose limitations of this kind, on free citizens. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Current: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Proposed: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: Local governments may set curfews, but national government does not.
Current: No curfew policies may be established.
Proposed: No curfew policies may be established.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:36:15, September 09, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | As we brought about the current legislation on both of the above proposed articles, we oppose this bill out of loyalty to our principles. |
| Date | 18:45:00, September 09, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | And we will support it out of loyalty to ours. |
| Date | 19:17:09, September 09, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | "Phrrrrrrrrlllpppppp", the CPL Home Secretary Spokewomen sticks her tongue out at the LPE Senatorial Party. |
| Date | 20:10:11, September 09, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | Mr. Tinned Peas pulls an even sillier face and recieves a slap on the hand from his party leader, Miss Nimajneb. Maybe we can see why he didn't get that position as foreign affairs minister... |
| Date | 20:32:47, September 09, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | Cries of "Shame" rise from the RLP benches |
| Date | 00:06:02, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | *entire LPE collapses in fits of laughter* |
| Date | 00:12:12, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | When breath has been regained: But seriously this is a very important bill for the rights of our citizens and removes excessive power from the hands of the government. It is important that we end the suppression of the views of individuals. And as far as curfews are concerned, we are not totally against individual curfews but feel that the wording of the current law also allows police the ability to arbitarily set curfews for entire neighbourhoods, not just PROVEN miscreants. |
| Date | 04:32:08, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | The AAP extends their thanks to the LPE for their wisdom and insight. Response to the CPL: how can you oppose a bill out of loyalty? If a Bill is not working, is it not your responsibility as Likatonian REPRESENTATIVES, to vote that Bill out of commission? Like the old saying goes, "You don't change horse in the middle of a stream"... To which, the wise man replies, "You do, if it's drowning". |
| Date | 11:18:00, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | How can the current policies be proven to not be working, they have obnly been in place for several years, we feel that they are still necessary today as they were when first introduced. |
| Date | 12:02:00, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | What AAP is saying, I think, is that each time there is a debate you should reconsider the merits of the issue on the basis of the debate, and contribute to that debate ideas as to WHY you oppose it, rather than just citing previous bills. Though we have had this debate many many times in recent years, so I wouldn't really blame you for being bored of it. |
| Date | 12:22:46, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | Well, in that case, we feel that the Police should have the right to disperse a violent crowd, we can't see any reason for allowing a riot to continue unopposed. |
| Date | 19:02:32, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | Response to the CPL: The AAP is shocked by the irrelevence of the CPL representative's comment. The Bill langauge CLEARLY states that crowds may be dispersed if risk is PROVEN (like a 'violent' crowd.). The current legislation lets the police break up a gathering for no greater reason than they 'believe' that it poses a 'potential risk'. No actual risk, no evidence of risk is needed... all they have to say is they 'believe' it MIGHT get risky. This is the kind of legislation that is used to shut down opposition political rallies (as happened a number of times at AAP rallies in the last few years). |
| Date | 20:48:11, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Taking Back the Streets |
| Message | That is the whole point of the current law, i gives the police the right to disperse a violent crowd, the proposed law allows anything to happen as there are no restrictions. The AAP must accept that only the current law gives the police the right t disperse violent crowds, regardless of what the description says. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 61 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 98 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 48 |
| Random fact: When elections in a country are held, all bills in the voting phase are reset to the debate phase. |
| Random quote: "Depressions and mass unemployment are not caused by the free market but by government interference in the economy." - Ludwig von Mises |