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Bill: Sharing the wealth of the nation
Details
Submitted by[?]: Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2110
Description[?]:
| We are all one human race, beyond petty nationalisms. It is to Lodamun's advantage to send foreign aid in order to reduce the causes of conflcit and make international friends. Aid can also open the door to trade. This bill would re-establish a small government aid agency as a pilot project, with the purpose of promoting Lodamun's values globally. No aid will be sent to foreign governments under any circumstances. Aid will be amde available to civil society organizations promoting human rights, to environmental groups and to worker-run cooperatives. No aid will be made available to countries hostile to Lodamun. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government never offers international aid.
Current: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Proposed: The government gives moderate aid to countries in need.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:34:23, September 09, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | Purchasing trading rights? Why would we want to trade with a nation that requires a bribe to do so? |
| Date | 17:51:06, September 10, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | We would prefer just offering moderate aid, buying out trading rights is a little underhanded. |
| Date | 20:35:13, September 10, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | Although we agree with the CNT/AFL and feel that if aid is needed and we have the capacity, we should provide it, we support the future-building element of this proposal. By targeting the relief efforts to the listed organisations we will be helping to build an international network. |
| Date | 22:09:10, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | There are several reasons the proposal was chosen: 1) we expect there will be bills passed introducing social programmes, and we believe that these should have first call on the public treasury. If funds allow, we would expect to be able to move to moderate aid in the future, but spending increases should not be too sudden, and the priority must go to social programmes in Lodamun such as the new drug benefit programme. However we cannot in good conscience leae the law at "no foreign aid." That is a short-sighted and counter-productive policy, whereas we thought this one might prove acceptable to both sides in the Assembly. 2) we are attempting to avoid the pendulum effect, in which values go from one extreme to the other every time there is a change of government. There has to be change, but we are prepared to see that as incremental change, one step at a time. Thus the move from "no aid" to "tied aid." 3) the bill description lays out that the concessions demanded for aid are trade-related, but they apply especially to matters of human rights and the environment, and to promote cooperatives overseas. |
| Date | 23:34:13, September 10, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | If cooperatives are actually in the best interests of those involved, they do not require LOD to fund them. If not, then we should not be funding them anyway. "tied" aid seems worse than "high" aid in my opinion, it just seems corrupted... |
| Date | 03:05:54, September 11, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | If the other parties prefer, we will change this to moderate aid. |
| Date | 04:16:14, September 11, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | I'll vote against, regardless, but a better option would definitely be moderate aid or disaster relief. "With vastly more money available around the world as private investment than there is as foreign aid, why do Third World countries want or need foreign aid? Because private investors will seldom put their own money into projects that have no realistic chance of working or into countries too corrupt and unreliable to expect the money to be used responsibly, much less repaid." |
| Date | 05:18:56, September 11, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | We would be prepared to support disaster relief as a short term option. |
| Date | 10:02:37, September 11, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | Why dont you guys just skip the short term option and go straight to your prefered value...if there is a majority consensus? |
| Date | 21:33:42, September 11, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Sharing the wealth of the nation |
| Message | By popular demand, the proposal has been changed to moderate aid. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 160 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 112 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Alduria, Rildanor and Lourenne all have Canrilaise (French) cultures. |
| Random quote: "We never know the worth of water 'til the well is dry." - Thomas Fuller |