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Bill: PUA Prison Labour Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pan-Sekowo Freedom Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2536
Description[?]:
By requireing prisoners to work during the day, the state gains a source of cheap labour, while making prison a less pleasent experiance for prisoners, increasing the power of prison as a deterent against crime. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 03:56:50, February 21, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | Agreed. Criminals should be punished, not paid. |
Date | 04:51:06, February 21, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | We are somewhat divided on this issue, but see the reasoning of it. |
Date | 05:39:34, February 21, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | This is nothing more than state sanctioned slavery. |
Date | 21:41:16, February 21, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | DSP's view is nothing more than state sanctioned criminal activities. Those who commit crime must serve their time, not being paid for it. How can the DSP possibly support criminals above the innocent unemployed people of Sekowo? That makes no sense. If you are in jail, you serve your work time. Outside of jail, you get paid for your work time. |
Date | 21:54:29, February 21, 2008 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | This is a tough choice for the FDP but at the end of the day we still believe prisoners have some rights, including the right not to be a slave. We must vote no. |
Date | 23:42:51, February 21, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | Servitude and slavery are two different things. |
Date | 01:34:38, February 23, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | FDP, it's not slavery. They are serving time. Why would you pay a criminal to be in jail? |
Date | 03:50:27, February 23, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | Sitting in prison is the punishment, nothing else. |
Date | 04:09:03, February 23, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | Prison is expensive. This is a way to recap costs. Punishment is punishment, whether it be confinement (solitary or otherwise), paying fines, or community service (which is exactly what forced labour is). |
Date | 05:12:45, February 23, 2008 CET | From | Peasant Party Of Sekowo | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | Yes, as long as the prisoners are not replacing the jobs of other sectors of society. |
Date | 18:32:06, February 23, 2008 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | "Prison is expensive. This is a way to recap costs. Punishment is punishment, whether it be confinement (solitary or otherwise), paying fines, or community service (which is exactly what forced labour is)." I would guess that prisoners being paid a small wage to do something will recoup costs as what they produce will be more valuable than what they are paid. |
Date | 06:37:29, February 24, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the PUA Prison Labour Bill |
Message | Not likely. Minimum wage is minimum wage. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 287 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 313 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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