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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of August 2539
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2540
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the Llywydd (President) chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Alorian Free Democrats
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the People's Reform Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the People's Reform Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Democratic Centrist Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Alorian Free Democrats
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Alorian Free Democrats
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Alorian Public Union
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the People's Reform Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Democratic Centrist Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the People's Reform Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the People's Reform Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:25:06, March 01, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2539 |
| Message | Not trying to act like MLP, but: Why aren't we on here? After all, DCP is on the list. |
| Date | 19:51:59, March 01, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2539 |
| Message | We offered you a cabinet seat in our proposed coalition government, and you declined it. Your vote against our proposed coalition by itself defeated that cabinet. So we offered the seat you declined to a party who we thought was more interested in it. Different parties have different philosophies about forming cabinets. Some believe cabinets should be composed according to seats in the parliament. Others believe, as we do, that cabinets should be composed according to political compromise. You're in the former camp. We're in the latter camp. If you can build a cabinet composed according to seats in the parliament, good for you. Of course, that cabinet will itself be the result of a political agreement of a different sort than ours. So it's really all the same. Or so we say. |
| Date | 20:01:12, March 01, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2539 |
| Message | Here's another reason for our answer: The Democratic Centrists are more closely aligned with our political aims than you appear to be. You've already proposed one budget which would have gutted at once the Health and Social Services funding we've spent decades putting in place. Now you've proposed another budget which cuts the defense budget: another policy objective we've spent years building a consensus for. And you don't even make arguments for your positions on these policies. You just act as though our budget figures are wholly arbitrary, and act to slash them at your whim. You've every right to do these things, and we don't really begrudge you for doing them. But they don't endear you to us politically. The Democratic Centrists, by contrast, support our policy goals. That endears them to us. So we want to help them out. They're our political allies. So we're more inclined to include them in a cabinet than we are you. "You do anything to help your friends, you do anything to kick your enemies." --Leo Pendergast, "Miller's Crossing" You're not our enemies, AMP. But you don't appear to be our friends, either. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 401 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 251 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 98 |
| Random fact: Particracy does not allow real-life brand names (eg. Coca Cola, McDonalds, Microsoft). However, in the case of military equipment brand names it is permitted to use simple number-letter combinations (eg. T-90 and F-22) borrowed from real life, and also simple generic names, like those of animals (eg. Leopard and Jaguar). |
| Random quote: "Proud Darnussians? Darnussian is an insult, nothing more! You should all try to be more like we are, the Narikatonites!" - Nikolai Shukanov, former Narikatonite politician |