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Bill: Saiserist Decree of 2542: Rewriting History
Details
Submitted by[?]: Saiserist League
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2543
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National, cultural and historic sites and monuments.
Old value:: The state actively protects scenery, localities, cultural, and historical sites; it maintains an agency to preserve them untouched if public interest so requires.
Current: The state actively protects scenery, localities, cultural, and historical sites; it maintains an agency to preserve them untouched if public interest so requires.
Proposed: The state actively removes or modifies cultural and historical heritage which are considered "inappropriate", or if public interest so requires.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:50:16, March 07, 2008 CET | From | Konservativa Respublikano Parti | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2542: Rewriting History |
| Message | I'll take it that if this bill is passed, then our memorial for the 1,492 people killed by Saiserist chemical weapons will be demolished? |
| Date | 13:14:58, March 07, 2008 CET | From | Saiserist League | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2542: Rewriting History |
| Message | It is an "indecent" part of our history and so should be blacked out from the books. Our children must be taught a legacy of great Zardugali victories and our gallant conduct and conquering over the hideous barbarians that strove to destroy us. We must teach them as well of hideous wars waged against the diabolical conspiracies of the Lesser People, not showing them monuments of the Lesser People's suffering. |
| Date | 17:57:18, March 07, 2008 CET | From | Konservativa Respublikano Parti | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2542: Rewriting History |
| Message | "It is indecent because it was the deliberate killing of nearly fifteen hundred innocent men, women and children. It is indecent because of the fact that it was the deliberate usage of chemical weapons by a government on it's own people. It is indecent because of those things. You are lucky that it was Major David Quinn who was in charge of the Ralds, for it was me I would have had you executed for murder." -Lt. Col. Ilya Feterokov |
| Date | 14:28:21, March 08, 2008 CET | From | Saiserist League | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2542: Rewriting History |
| Message | "Well, firstly it was Saiser Volodimir the Magnificent who ordered the attack, and it can hardly be argued it was not justified. The people of Swinford were overwhelmingly Irish and had on several occasions resisted Saiserist rule. Despite numerous attempts by Saiser Volodimir the Magnificent to teach the townspeople some discipline by making examples of selected individuals, the people of Swinford were unusually stubborn. And so they were eradicated. It should either be taught that way or stricken from the books, as it is in the two variants of historical textbooks distributed by SilverPride Publishers. The version we currently teach to our children is disgraceful and ndermines their faith in the inerring rightness and invincibility of Zardugal." ~Lord Marshall Saiser Aleksander |
| Date | 20:04:00, March 08, 2008 CET | From | Konservativa Respublikano Parti | To | Debating the Saiserist Decree of 2542: Rewriting History |
| Message | "Well, firstly it was Saiser Volodimir the Magnificent who ordered the attack," Mr. Naryshkin was a member of the Saiserist Council at the time, and his signature was on the order to use WMDs. "and it can hardly be argued it was not justified. This is gonna be good. "The people of Swinford were overwhelmingly Irish and had on several occasions resisted Saiserist rule." Race is not a good reason. And if the Slavs were being oppressed by the Irish, wouldn't they resist Irish rule? "Despite numerous attempts by Saiser Volodimir the Magnificent to teach the townspeople some discipline by making examples of selected individuals, the people of Swinford were unusually stubborn." A.K.A. you took children out of schools and shot them. Not a good way to win hearts and minds, that. And so they were eradicated." With hydrogen cyanide (HCN) "It should either be taught that way or stricken from the books, as it is in the two variants of historical textbooks distributed by SilverPride Publishers. It will not be taught that way, seeing as SilverPride texts are generally seen as "filled of lies and propoganda" (Arkady Kadishev, head of the Association of Secondary School Teachers of Zardugal) and "never accurate, and not even in half-decent English" (Alan Duggan, head of the Zardugali National School Teachers Organisation). Apparently, they photocopy pages from the old textbooks and use them to teach. "The version we currently teach to our children is disgraceful and ndermines their faith in the unerring rightness and invincibility of Zardugal." However, the version that we teach has one thing going for it; it's the truth. -Press release from the Rald Party. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 149 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 164 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Cabinet ministers who disagree seriously with the head of government would usually be expected to resign. Parties within the cabinet may attempt to manoeuvre to replace the head of government though, for example by proposing a new cabinet bill or voting for an early election. |
| Random quote: "The liberal state is a mask behind which there is no face; it is a scaffolding behind which there is no building." - Benito Mussolini |