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Bill: The Justice Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialists

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2040

Description[?]:

An Act to ensure that the state respects the rights of prisoners, and treats them with the respect they deserve as Human Beings.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

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FromTotalitarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageWe would support this if prisoners worked during the day.

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From
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageArticle 2 is a good idea. However, we are very strongly against Article 1. Our nation's murderers must not have the opportunity to repeat their crimes. Even in the case of a life sentence without parole, it is still theoretically possible for these barbarians to return to the streets of Baltusia. The death penalty assures that this will not happen.

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FromTotalitarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageWe agree with the Democratic party, but are willing to make a concession if mandatory work was established. Still, I dont see taxpayers being happy their money is going to feed rapists.

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FromDemocratic Socialists
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageWe have no problem with ensuring prisoners work during the day.

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FromTotalitarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageWe support this bill.

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FromDemocratic Socialists
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageCitizens must know that if falsely accused there will be no risk of being put to death. As long as a person is alive, an error can be corrected - once they are dead, that can no longer occur. The state should not kill people. If we do that, we are no better than the killers we claim to hate. No country which has abolished the death penalty has seen a rise in violent crime - it does not work as a deterrent. Many would also say that is ends things too quickly; in prison for life, the guilty can reflect on what they did which ensured decades of incarceration.

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From
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageWe are still leery of the abolition of the death penalty, but the addition of the prisoner work clause does tip this bill slightly more in our favor.

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FromTotalitarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageFalse accusation has nothing to do with the method of punishment, and everything with the system under which they are accused. If innocent people are executed, maybe it is the system that needs to be examined, but not the punishment itself.

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FromDemocratic Socialists
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageUnder normal circumstances it would solely need to be the system which was examined, but in the case of the death penalty, the effect of punishing an innocent person is too great to risk.

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FromDemocratic Socialists
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageNational Socialists: You stated that you would support this with the addition of Article three. We very much regret your change of heart in this matter.

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FromTotalitarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the The Justice Act
MessageWe have agreed to accept however request the matter of capital punishment to be debated further at a later date.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 64

no

    Total Seats: 0

    abstain

      Total Seats: 0


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