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Bill: Public Trasnport Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Loyalistische Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2543
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Funding of public transport (where applicable).
Old value:: Public transport is partially subsidised with the remainder "user-pays".
Current: Public transport is fully user-pays.
Proposed: Public transport is fully user-pays.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:27:35, March 08, 2008 CET | From | New-Revolutionary Communist Party (NRCP) | To | Debating the Public Trasnport Bill |
| Message | Think, please, just for a few moments. Who are the people least likely t be earning consistently going to be? The ill, the sick and the disabled. Yes, those are the people who need to rely most on state aid to survive at all. Those people who, by necessity, live hand to mouth in vital jobs at the lower-skilled end of the market, as soon as they become ill and cannot earn as much any more, will not receive any treatment at all, because they cannot pay for it. Why not go the whole hog, and call for compulsory euthanasia for anyone too ill/old to work any more? Or is it just the poor that you believe should be left to die in isolation and despair? Rejected outright. |
| Date | 15:27:29, March 08, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the Public Trasnport Bill |
| Message | We have fully working national church which will help the poor and ill, that is one of their most important missions after all. There are also many other organisations to help them. Basic education is still paid for everyone, so eventually those who are poor are those who don't wan't to do anything to earn money, just benefit from others. Bums. |
| Date | 15:32:56, March 08, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the Public Trasnport Bill |
| Message | Not that we are that much against the current system (except for that public transport part), we just wan't some visibilty. But we also feel it is somewhat undemocratic to pay some citizens rent and not others. Why should you be punished for doing more work and earning more money? |
| Date | 18:27:23, March 08, 2008 CET | From | Party for the Republic | To | Debating the Public Trasnport Bill |
| Message | There is nothing undemocratic about recognizing that human life is worth something, even the lives of thhose who have made bad decisions or have fallen upon bad times. Everyone must be kept at least at a substinence level of living. |
| Date | 23:16:58, March 08, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the Public Trasnport Bill |
| Message | It is undemocratic that if I make hard work to earn money, I won't get free living nor healthcare. |
| Date | 13:46:07, March 09, 2008 CET | From | New-Revolutionary Communist Party (NRCP) | To | Debating the Public Trasnport Bill |
| Message | Do you understand how taxation works? If you earn more, yes you pay more, but you still have far more left over at the end. The reason that you hear about rich people complaining about being taxed more, is that they are STILL very rich after being taxed more. The point is, that you have chosen to take care and money away from people who have least opportunity to continue earning - the disabled the ill and the old. It's not a case of 'laziness' or wanting to leech off the state. These are people who physically cannot earn, and who employers will not want to employ. This is akin to nothing less than leaving the most vulnerable in our society to the benefit of charity 9supported by, wait for it, the rich!). You just want to lower their chances of survival? Or genuinely don't care about human life beyond it's productive application? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 90 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 208 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 2 |
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