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Bill: Modern Morality (Intoxicants) Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Royal Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2110
Description[?]:
| Preserving the peace of Lodamun through the restriction of substances that dramatically alter the behaviour of members of society leading to increased rates of crime and health problems |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: Alcoholic beverage regulations are not imposed by the government.
Current: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Current: The use of cannabis is legal.
Proposed: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in places of employment, with the exception of places that primarily serve liquor.
Current: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in places of employment, with the exception of places that primarily serve liquor.
Proposed: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in all places of employment.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:46:58, September 12, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Modern Morality (Intoxicants) Bill |
| Message | Morality cannot be legislated, by definition. Morality must be voluntarily accepted. I dont know what religious beliefs you hold, but I believe that human beings were given free will, and a freedom to make choices that are harmful to themselves. If God would allow people to mess up their own lives, who are we to prevent it? If he created drugs/narcotics, who can say that he wants the governments of man to outlaw them? "Freedom, morality, and the human dignity of the individual consists precisely in this; that he does good not because he is forced to do so, but because he freely conceives it, wants it, and loves it." – Mikhail Bakunin "Unless a good deed is voluntary, it has no moral significance." – Everett Dean Martin (1880-1941), Political Philosopher "A code of values accepted by choice is a code of morality." --Ayn Rand, http://compuball.com/Inquisition/AynRand/galtspeech_pmark_broken.htm |
| Date | 16:37:36, September 12, 2005 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Modern Morality (Intoxicants) Bill |
| Message | I am not particularly religious (as you will have noticed, I do not push very strong religion related bills) but I feel very strongly on the dangerous effects produced by the abuse of dangerous substances. |
| Date | 21:41:47, September 12, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Modern Morality (Intoxicants) Bill |
| Message | I apologize, where I come from most conservatives are motivated by religious beliefs. In any case you believe that morality is a decent goal. My party also uses objective moral laws to determine political positions, to the degree that we believe morality must be accepted by choice to have value. We believe that the most immoral thing someone can do is to infringe upon the rights of another. We feel that government legislated "values" are counter-productive and unjustifiable. |
| Date | 19:03:41, September 13, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Modern Morality (Intoxicants) Bill |
| Message | we could consider supporting some of these measures, but cannot vote for a ban on recreational drug use, man. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 77 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 109 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 86 |
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| Random quote: "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane; Command and Conquer: Red Alert |