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Bill: Income tax proposal of May 2543

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes to change income taxes. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2545

Description^[?]:

The Democratic Rationalists propose to adjust the government's income tax policy to better address the economic situation of the Democratic Republic of Aloria.

Proposals

Article 1

We propose to alter income tax brackets to the following setup. Information about the current income tax system can be found here.

Bracket	Tax	Estimated Revenue
> 10,000 ALO	45%	23,205,000,000 ALO
> 15,000 ALO	50%	13,996,000,000 ALO
> 20,000 ALO	55%	3,928,000,000 ALO
> 25,000 ALO	60%	1,167,000,000 ALO
Total		42,296,000,000 ALO

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	00:05:50, March 10, 2008 CET
From	Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	It is time to begin another discussion about Aloria's budget. We urge all parties to participate in budget talks at this stage about Aloria's budget goals. We agree with the MLP that some budget priorities have been neglected: the Ministries of Justice and Infrastructure and Transport in particular need more funding. Justice is now receiving about the same funding it did when the Democratic Rationalists began in Aloria in the 2430's. Aloria's population has exploded since then, and its courts our now overcrowded. Our infrastructure is likewise crumbling: we need new roads, and new bridges. But we need revenues to do these things. That's why we've proposed this adjustment to the income tax. If it passes, we would distribute the majority of the revenues generated from it to the Ministries of Justice and Infrastructure and Transport. We urge also a more general budget discussion, about Aloria's long range budget goals. Should Aloria's budget be cut? If so, what areas and why? Should Aloria's budget be increased? If so, what areas and why? Input from all parties is desired.

Date	04:08:09, March 10, 2008 CET
From	Conservative Union
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	Raising taxes is just another word for less revenue. Democrats should know this by now.

Date	16:06:54, March 10, 2008 CET
From	Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	Mmmm. No, that's not true.

Date	16:07:41, March 10, 2008 CET
From	Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	Here in Aloria, we've increased revenues from next to nothing to around 60 billion/year by raising taxes.

Date	16:09:47, March 10, 2008 CET
From	Conservative Union
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	It is true; lowering taxes brings in more of a revenue. OOC: Look at what Romney did in Massachusetts, he lowered taxes and it brought in a bigger revenue. Along with Giuliani in NYC, it brought in a bigger revenue.

Date	16:58:49, March 10, 2008 CET
From	Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	False cause.

Date	16:59:50, March 10, 2008 CET
From	Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	But this isn't the point of this thread. Fine. you oppose this tax increase. We get the point. This thread is about larger budget goals. We'd like to steer the conversation back to that.

Date	18:22:17, March 10, 2008 CET
From	Conservative Union
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	Fine. We're opposing it anyways.

Date	21:05:40, March 10, 2008 CET
From	Alorian Public Union
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	We'd support this.

Date	21:12:06, March 11, 2008 CET
From	New Socialist Alliance
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	the top bracket is 25k that's too low

Date	21:17:02, March 11, 2008 CET
From	Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	Income distribution in Aloria doesn't model the real world. 25k is an exceptionally high income. 28k is the highest recorded Alorian income.

Date	21:18:03, March 11, 2008 CET
From	Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	The median Alorian income falls somewhere between 5k and 8k.

Date	03:19:07, March 12, 2008 CET
From	Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition)
To	Debating the Income tax proposal of May 2543
Message	60% tax rates?! Unbelievable. Why not just make them all 100? That way government can take everything people earn and distribute it as the government sees fit. This tax policy is out of control and crazy!

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Voting

Vote

Seats

yes

Total Seats: 257

Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) (169)
People's Reform Party (138)
Conservative Union (46)

Total Seats: 353

abstain

Vox Sethura Party (0)

Total Seats: 0

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