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Bill: Presidential Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Loyalistische Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2544
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Current: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Proposed: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:43:31, March 10, 2008 CET | From | Party for the Republic | To | Debating the Presidential Reform |
| Message | No. We see no reason to allow a president, rather than the Parliament, to set the agenda. |
| Date | 16:44:34, March 10, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the Presidential Reform |
| Message | The people should electe the head of government directly not some oligarchs who happen to run the parties. Democracy above all. |
| Date | 16:45:36, March 10, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the Presidential Reform |
| Message | Or perhaps mrs. Thompson sees herself to be better suited to elect the nations true leader than the people? |
| Date | 16:53:08, March 10, 2008 CET | From | Party for the Republic | To | Debating the Presidential Reform |
| Message | I will remind you that I'm now serving in the Foreign Ministry, and not in the DLP leadership. However, I was elected to represent the people, as were my colleagues in the Parliament. We represent the people more than your president would, as voices from all across Darnussia are heard in the Parliament, and only one is heard after a presidential election. Jordanna Thompson, Foreign Minister |
| Date | 16:55:48, March 10, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the Presidential Reform |
| Message | Yes, one who is elected by the majority of the people and not by couple of partyleaders who as such control unlimited power within the current system. |
| Date | 17:00:46, March 10, 2008 CET | From | Party for the Republic | To | Debating the Presidential Reform |
| Message | Don't those same party leaders choose the presidential nominees? |
| Date | 17:07:09, March 10, 2008 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the Presidential Reform |
| Message | Yes, they do, but at that point the people atleas know who ends up as their leader. For example I doubt someone voting for NRCP thought they would be also voting for George Buchanan or Anton Robervou to be their prime minister. |
| Date | 19:28:26, March 10, 2008 CET | From | New-Revolutionary Communist Party (NRCP) | To | Debating the Presidential Reform |
| Message | Real democracy comes from separation of powers - an executive (including president) to manage day-to-day running of the country, a legislature to provide legislation and voting procedures, and a judiciary to interpret and apply laws. As soon as they become mixed, and too much power is focused in the hands of a small number of people, democracy begins to be eroded. |
| Date | 19:37:24, March 10, 2008 CET | From | Party for the Republic | To | Debating the Presidential Reform |
| Message | No, the supporters of the NRCP probably did not know which government the NRCP would take part in. They simply wanted those who supported their principles to have a say in government, which they did, in both of the governments you mentioned. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 135 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 163 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Parties have the ability to endorse another party's candidate for the Head of State election (if there is one). This adds a strategic element to the elections. |
| Random quote: "In heaven all the interesting people are missing." - Friedrich Nietzsche |