We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Cabinet Proposal of April 2547
Details
Submitted by[?]: Solentian People Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2547
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the President chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the 
Independent Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Independent Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Federal Independent Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Solentian People Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Solentian People Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Solentian People Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Liberal Party of Solentia
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Independent Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Independent Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Solentian People Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Liberal Party of Solentia
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Federal Independent Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:17:12, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Solentian People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | 4/6 parties have been included within the cabinet, I feel this is quite bi-partisan and allows for the public mood to be reflected within government and the cabinet. The parties I have chosen are the most respected and most popular among the public and public opinion. Janice Andrews, First Minister |
| Date | 17:22:59, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Solentian People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | This isn't a nasty way to undermine other 2 parties, they just are not as experienced in cabinet government as others as of this present time. |
| Date | 17:24:10, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | I respectfully disagree with the apparent authority on experience. |
| Date | 17:27:45, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Solentian People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | Well you have every right to disagree, I would like to place you in the cabinet but a party with just 13 seats and a fairly new party doesn't in my opinion deserve to run big offices of state just yet and will have to build up a good reputation and lots of experience. I will one day, if in power would like to see you at the cabinet table however. Janice Andrews, First Minster |
| Date | 19:26:55, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | To the right honorable First Minister, Not only has the F.R.L. held Head of Government position, and Solentia didn't go to hell in a hand-basket under our tenure; we've now held three ministry level positions for quite sometime and again the record of reforms in the matters in our stead have been nothing short of revolutionary. This nation as long as we've been here under two party names, my respected friend, has never had a Minister of Defense actually stand up for the Defense industry, our military and actually get reforms on modernizing our military. The legislative agenda of our party reflects this. You can disagree about experience all you'd like but, results are a different tale altogether. To further discriminate on seats a party has is a deliberate non-sequitar as you very well know. It does not come to a surprise to the F.R.L. to see you make such a bold move given that over 100 seats in our legislature sit empty and as the Head of State it is flat-out negligence to the citizens of Solentia that you deny them a special election given such recent losses of more experienced and larger parties. If this does pass, every Solentian will view it as nothing but a move towards your parties self-interest and not the interests of Solentia. Due to many internal shake-ups within the F.R.L. we lost a tremendous amount of seats in the most recent elections. This is quite unfortunate at the least! Though, with utmost confidence a new dawn is coming for both Solentia and the F.R.L. and this will not be the last gasp of our proud party. Signed, Party Chairman, Edward 'Tipp' Wagner Minister of Defense, Ulysses Conrad Rowlins Minister of Science and Technology, Carloman Pépin Minister of Environment and Tourism, Amous Schumacher |
| Date | 19:37:39, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Solentian People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | You make a good case for cabinet, If this fails to pass I will include you in my next. But I would like to add that you didn't lose seats in the recent elections due to an internal party shake up, you lost seats because experienced and well known parties like the CMP, PP and Liberals all came back and won voters back. (You only gained the massive seats you did in the first place because there was only 4 or 5 small/newish/inactive parties in the country.) |
| Date | 19:42:47, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | OOC: I lost them due to inactivity, the record reflects this. I had some medical issues that put me in the hospital and kept me away from the game. I did come in on crest, your right but from there my activity died down dramatically. With a clean bill of health, I'm back unlike some others. And as said, this isn't my first rodeo in Solentia merely a new name. In fact, it's the third party here. I just don't re-activate the old ones which seems so popular. Just to be clear. Though, I appreciate you conceding on the issue of my involvement in my posts. |
| Date | 19:44:13, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | OOC: To be blunt, given my low-seat count right now I can understand the desire to put others in. My main cup of tea is defense and has been. I've not seen another clambering for it nor pushing that agenda either. Eventually as the passed has also held, I will be more interested in other venues but alas, this is for the future. |
| Date | 19:45:58, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Solentian People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | I will remember you for the position of Defence. |
| Date | 19:59:39, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | The Federal Republican League extends our gratitude to the People Party for a second recent breath of fresh air in the form of compromise and bipartisanship. Further seeing the value to listening to others, even if they are at the present in the minority. Signed, Party Chairman, Edward 'Tipp' Wagner |
| Date | 20:01:15, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2547 |
| Message | The Federal Republican League to clarify our position remain in opposition to this measure and will any and all cabinet proposals until elections-whether early or the scheduled elections occur and all citizens of Solentia have a chance to fill the now nearly 100 vacant seats. Signed, Party Chairman, Edward 'Tipp' Wagner |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 95 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 92 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 122 |
| Random fact: Information about the population of each country can be found on the Population Information thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8663 |
| Random quote: "Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, torture or death say they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as soldiers; we should be used as weapons." - Letter to the editor, the Advocate |