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Bill: Torture
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Zeus Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2549
Description[?]:
| "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." - Friedrich Nietzche The NZP feels that under absolutely no circumstances should our police force or any other agencies use torture as a means of interrogation or punishment. A great nation such as Solentia must ask itself "Are we ok with this?" If we use such barbaric practices we will lose our soul as a nation of freedom and open-mindedness. The NZP urges you to support this peice of legislation, because if we continue on such a path it will only lead to worse and worse things. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:45:26, March 20, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Torture |
| Message | Why don't you just give our enemies the keys to our cities. Why do you hate Solentia? |
| Date | 18:12:21, March 20, 2008 CET | From | Solentian Populist Party | To | Debating the Torture |
| Message | Respectfully, The United Democratic Party does not feel that the current policy on torture is barbaric or monster-like. Under no circumstances would we ever tolerate meaningless or unjust torture; however, the key phrase in the current legislation is "under grave emergencies where the information is vital." If a situation were to arise in which national security was at risk, then we would be prepared to take whatever means necessary to protect the people of Solentia. For this reason, we regrettably opt not to support this legislation. Although we don't see eye-to-eye on this particular issue, I hope that we will be able to work together to pass future legislation covering different issues. Sincerely, Party Chairman, Hillary Rodham Director of Justice, Alistaire Foster |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 25 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 187 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 97 |
| Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve. |
| Random quote: "No man can outrun a bullet." - Idi Amin |