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Bill: RadNat Agenda 2550-2551
Details
Submitted by[?]: Meritocratic Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2551
Description[?]:
| Some changes we'd like to see occur. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Racial segregation of public amenities (eg. drinking fountains, public toilets)
Old value:: Segregation of any public amenity is banned.
Current: Segregation of any public amenity is banned.
Proposed: Government owned amenities are not segregated, private organisations are free to choose.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Education for children under adult age.
Old value:: Education is compulsory, but home schooling is permitted.
Current: Education is entirely voluntary.
Proposed: Education is compulsory and has to happen at school.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 18
Current: 16
Proposed: 16
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on essential goods such as food and non-luxury clothing.
Old value:: 2
Current: 0
Proposed: 1
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning genetically modified (GM) crops.
Old value:: All activities related to production, selling or researching of GM crops are allowed.
Current: All activities related to production, selling or researching of GM crops are allowed.
Proposed: Research and selling imported GM crops is allowed. Production is prohibited.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government only gives aid for disaster relief in foreign countries.
Current: The government only gives aid for disaster relief in foreign countries.
Proposed: The government supplies "tied" aid to poorer nations in return for trading rights.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The confidentiality of letters and correspondence.
Old value:: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable.
Current: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable.
Proposed: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable, but the justice dept. can violate it in extreme situations.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The use of animals in medical research.
Old value:: Animal research projects must apply for a license and submit to regulation.
Current: Animal research projects must apply for a license and submit to regulation.
Proposed: Animals may not be used for any research.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The distribution, purchasing and possession of material depicting pornographic acts.
Old value:: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults.
Current: All forms of pornography are illegal.
Proposed: All forms of pornography are illegal.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Current: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; no aid is given to them.
Proposed: No refugees are allowed to enter the country.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change The legality of slavery.
Old value:: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Current: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Proposed: The slave trade is illegal, but slavery is legal as a punishment.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change The teacher's right to discipline children.
Old value:: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Current: Teachers may use corporal punishment at their discretion.
Proposed: Teachers may use corporal punishment at their discretion.
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on tree plantation.
Old value:: Local governments may set plantation policy.
Current: The government requires tree plantation at higher than replacement levels for all logging or clearance operations.
Proposed: The government requires tree plantation at higher than replacement levels for all logging or clearance operations.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:30:07, March 24, 2008 CET | From | Solentian Populist Party | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | Respectfully, The United Democratic Party is willing to lend our support to Articles 1, 9, and 13, and we are flirting with the idea of Article 15. The rest, however, are far too radical for us to accept. Drop Articles 1, 9, 13, and 15 into a separate bill and we will support those. Signed, President Hillary Rodham |
| Date | 17:38:26, March 24, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | No. |
| Date | 18:45:24, March 24, 2008 CET | From | Solentian Populist Party | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | Very well. I admire your determination. We will abstain for now, and see how the other parties vote. If you won't separate Articles 1, 9, 13, and 15, then I cannot at this time vote no, as I strongly support those articles. I genuinely would like to see those four articles passed, and it if means accepting some other legislation that I don't necessarily agree with, well, then I will not rule that out as a possibility. Your short response concerns me, and I truly hope I have not offended. I am doing my best to work with all parties to see past differences and get the job done. Sincerely, Hillary Rodham |
| Date | 19:19:33, March 24, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | No we are just totally plagued by a lack of time. These items may come up for vote again as seperate issues. SRNP. |
| Date | 19:35:58, March 24, 2008 CET | From | Solentian Populist Party | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | None among us can fault you for the lack of time. It seems sometimes that no matter how long or hard we work to resolve these issues, the paperwork just continues to pile up. I will continue to abstain from voting on this issue for the time being, as I do agree with many of your policies. I am simply torn between the demands of my less-radical constituents and my personal ideals. Hillary Rodham |
| Date | 01:39:04, March 25, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | OOC: Article Two is currently about to or has passed; just as a note. The F.R.P. is considering this bill in the meantime. |
| Date | 02:32:42, March 25, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | At the expense of being informal and rude the Founders of the Autocratic Nationalist Front find the contents of this bill to be not only misleading but insulting. To expect our people to agree to any form of slavery is a joke. Compulsory schooling without the right to home schooling would be a direct insult to our religious citizens. This bill seems adamant on removing the power of our local governments and instilling an overpowered, and condescending federal government. |
| Date | 03:35:22, March 25, 2008 CET | From | Solentian Populist Party | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | The United Democratic Party is extremely torn on this issue, and until further insight is reached, we cannot yet reach a decision. We apologize for holding up the process and keeping the Solentian Radical Nationalist Party in suspense. |
| Date | 15:38:23, March 25, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | To the AFN: We respect your opinions. We feel, however, that during the horrible years of the Conservative Morality Party, far too much control was removed from the central government and placed on already overburdened local governments. This bill seeks to redress many of those issues. |
| Date | 15:49:23, March 25, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | I can understand your concerns on many of these articles, but if you could please explain why you have included that slavery, even that of convicted criminals, is ok? |
| Date | 20:07:10, March 25, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the RadNat Agenda 2550-2551 |
| Message | We believe that it IS ok. Should the guilty be given vacations for their crimes? We think not. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 136 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 289 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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