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Bill: Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun

Details

Submitted by[?]: Democratic Workers' Party and CTUL List

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2551

Description[?]:

We, the Convocation of the Axis Mundi Likatonian Res Publica, hereby formally and properly, propose an unconditional peace with our neighbours of the United Republics of Lodamun.

Recognising that many atrocities have been committed in the names of both countries in this war, we urge the Parliament of Free Peoples to pass a reciprocal motion, acknowledging the cessation of all hostilities between our nations, and condemning those guilty of war crimes in the name of whomsoever.

We, the People of Likatonia, announce freely and gladly that the traitorous war criminals of Likatonia have been removed from power.

We extend our thanks to every nation, assembly, leader, party, union, organisation and individual who helped us in achieving this eventual peace.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:16:51, March 25, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
Message"We, the People of Likatonia, announce freely and gladly that the traitorous war criminals of Likatonia have been removed from power. "

On the contrary the GLNF held the Ministry of Foreign Affairs throughout and the Defence Ministry recently. They provided unconditional support for the project throughout. Only with their support could people like James Turner and General Bobby Johnson be given power and guns. Just because the CLP were the intellect (naturally) and the face of the project, doesn't mean all responsibility rests with us. If the most successful government in Likatonia's history happen to be "traitorous war criminals of Likatonia", then the DWP and co. are happy to sit in power with the engineers of that project.

Date19:10:56, March 25, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic Workers' Party and CTUL List
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageIt is our understanding that there has recently been a schism in the GLNF, and that none of the perpetrating Nationalists are to play any part in the forthcoming Unity Cabinet.

Date19:16:00, March 25, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageWe always said the DWP were delusional.

Date19:16:21, March 25, 2008 CET
From Likaton Coalition of the Willing
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageIn point of fact, any and all members of the GLNF are willing to testify in any war crimes trials, even if it means implicating themselves or the party.

Date21:19:47, March 25, 2008 CET
FromLodamun Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageAll we want for peace is that Likatonia, as the agressor, help pay for the rebuilding of Zaphograd and clearing the nuclear mess from the nuke you launched at Charlesbourg. We will offcourse help pay to clear up the nuclear mess we made at Tiorovsk.

We also think we should both sign a non agression treaty as a step to try and prevent future wars between us

Signed
Olav Craig, Lodamuns Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Date21:26:05, March 25, 2008 CET
FromLodamun Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
Messagesmall update on the last thing. Since it was your demands for a colony in Rapula that started this thing, and because you guys invaded our territory while we never crossed into yours we would like a appology from your government for invading our country and starting the whole ethnic cleasing part of the war

Date13:49:51, March 26, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageSmall update for the LLI - your weapons most assuredly did enter Likatonian territory... unless we are supposed to assume that the Tiorovsk Incident was a mass hallucination?

Date17:13:50, March 26, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageThe LLP already acknowledged Tiorovsk

"We will offcourse help pay to clear up the nuclear mess we made at Tiorovsk."

But their troops never crossed the Likatonian border - they were simply no match for the Likatonian military.

Date19:56:12, March 26, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
Message"...we never crossed into yours..."

Only true if one takes an incredibly narrow view of what constitutes incursion.

Date18:37:25, March 27, 2008 CET
FromLodamun Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageWe sent one rocket and some artillery shells into your side of the boarder. I wouldnt call that an incursion because we never had any naval, air, or army units actually crossing the boarder. If that is an incredibly narrow view of what consitiutes and incursion, then please make the case for that

Date19:01:37, March 27, 2008 CET
From Likaton Coalition of the Willing
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageYou were responsible for over 1 million Likaton deaths within Likatonia...

Date12:30:45, March 28, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageSo - if Likatonia decides to resume conflict, but ONLY uses remote shelling and indirect rocketry, the Lodamun Libertarian Party will consider that to be a different thing to if we actually allowed troops to cross the border?

Military units are military units. A rocket and artillery are still military units.

There's nothing conflicted about that view. Where would the LLP place remote control drones? Incursion or non-incursion? We have the technology to wage a war without ever dropping a single Likatonian foot in Lodamunm, using remotely operated machineries of war, and remotely targetted support fire.

Apparently, the LLP wouldn't consider that incursive.

We await your response, LLP - future generations on both sides of the Likaton/Lodamun border may one day praise or curse your name, depending upon it.

Date12:34:40, March 28, 2008 CET
From Likaton Coalition of the Willing
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageFrom Lodamun Libertarian Party
To Debating the Updates on Likatonia-Lodamun Situation
September 2549
Announcement from the Government of the United Republics of Lodamun

After hearing new of the cowardly chemical attack the Lodamun Special Forces was ordered to capture the renegade general.

****Under the cover of night the special forces succesfully captured General Bobby Johnson and took him safely into Lodamun territory where he will await trial in the next few days.****

Also the 9th Division was ordered to attack the base of General Johnsons Milita. Assisted by the 3rd bomber squadron the battle was a quick one. All of the milita was killed, therby eradicating all Likatonian military presence in Rapula.

The 5th army has been ordered to the boarder towards Likatonia. There is now 3 whole armies defending the boarder.

*****Also the 2nd air fleet has bombed Likatonian military positions in Sorbanika over the last 3 days as a reprisal to the chemical attack. No reports on the damage of the attack has surfaced at this time.*****

In a statement, the minister fo foreign affairs, Olav Craig, strongly condemned the Likatonian supported genocide of Lodamun people, saying that this just shows how despicable the methods that Likatonia will go to in order to clean out Rapula of its Likatonian majority and called upon the whole world to condemn the attack and help the survivors of the attack.

Signed,
the Government of the United Republics of Lodamun

Date12:35:03, March 28, 2008 CET
From Likaton Coalition of the Willing
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageI've added helpful ****'s to indicate the Lodamun incursions...

Date12:52:49, March 28, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Formal Petition for Peace between the nations of Likatonia and Lodamun
MessageOur thanks to the GLNF - it looks like the Lodamese are trying to play down the facts a little - that looks like there have been SEVERAL distinct incursions, and not the 'occasional artillery and one rocket' that certain Lodamese apologists seem to claim.

Well, Lodamun, we await your... response?

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