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Bill: Military Service
Details
Submitted by[?]: Tuatha Dé Danann
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2557
Description[?]:
| TBD |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:53:42, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Tukarali Democratic Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | Opposed. |
| Date | 22:44:03, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | No. |
| Date | 01:46:46, April 04, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | Full support. This will allow us to mobilize our forces quickly if we are involved in a massive conflict. |
| Date | 01:47:01, April 04, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | Also, this is something that most civilized nations actually have. |
| Date | 06:05:48, April 04, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | Well, no, that's just not true. The only nations that have this are those which view individuals rights as unimportant. |
| Date | 07:51:10, April 05, 2008 CET | From | JDW Tukarali Greens Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | nope I could support civilian service |
| Date | 13:04:55, April 05, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | Funny. :rolleyes: OOC: When I turned 18 I had to sign up for the Selective Service. Not because we actually have a draft at the moment but if we ever got involved in a massive conflict and needed troops, I can be called up to duty. And yes, most civilized nations do have something similar. |
| Date | 15:32:26, April 05, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | Not to mention any kind of compulsory service is just going to engender feelings of contempt towards the state. We hardly want our youth growing up with the idea that the state views them as nothing more than pawns. |
| Date | 23:14:48, April 05, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | You realize that there is no compulsary service in this act? |
| Date | 23:19:31, April 05, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | Yes there is, the state can force people to serve. |
| Date | 00:29:44, April 06, 2008 CET | From | Patriot Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | Luckily not in the US though if we were in a massive war, we have something in place to call up people quickly if necessary though it would require an act of Congress to implement. |
| Date | 00:45:45, April 06, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Military Service |
| Message | Yes, so you can have legions of badly equipped and barely trained cannon fodder sent out to die for a cause they don't believe in. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 206 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 294 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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