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Bill: APC - Ending improper division of power
Details
Submitted by[?]: Republican Coalition
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2558
Description[?]:
| OOC:This is an RP bill (requires 2/3rds support) This is a bill to end all power given to the Imperial family. Although they keep official leadership of the nation, they are stripped of power beyond their representation and their historical owned lands. This will include retraction of this bill: Restoration of the Imperial Tribunal. The royal family will join the other Hulstrian aristocratic families in terms of power. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:26:56, April 07, 2008 CET | From |  Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei | To | Debating the APC - Ending improper division of power |
| Message | Erm perhaps the APC would like the we don't bother the read the bill that restored the monarchy as seen here: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=181686 We note that the Imperial Family, beyond their power as private citizens in areas of business, hold only ceremonial power, with the popularly elected Lord Protector holding all government authority. And for the Imperial Tribunal, we note the Monarch appoints jurers, on the advice of the Lord Protector, however since we realize the APC hasn't been in politics very long and therefore doesn't know what wording like that means, we will explain. The power vested in the monarch to appoint judges is ceremonial the Lord Protector nominates the candidates and the monarch appoints them unless some major issue can be found. We therefore ask the APC to stop wasting the Diet's time with their pointless bills to limit the ceremonial power of the monarchy. |
| Date | 05:29:24, April 07, 2008 CET | From | Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei | To | Debating the APC - Ending improper division of power |
| Message | OOC: Erm Sorry that first line should read: Erm perhaps the APC would like to bother reading the bill that restored the monarchy as seen here: It's late and I'm sleepy, so my grammar is in the pooper. |
| Date | 11:35:42, April 07, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the APC - Ending improper division of power |
| Message | We are not wasting time any more then those ceremonial powers you cling to so dearly do. We were fully aware of the bill which restored the monarchy, yet feel that these powers, though perhaps quite meaningless now, have the full potential for abuse by a monarch with any ambition. Though even this point is little in comparison to the vast wastes of time invested to granting the monarchy its every whim and having it rubber-stamp every major government decision. It is unnecessary, and as such, ridiculous. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 163 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 306 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 31 |
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