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Bill: Public Health Care
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Socialist Peoples Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2561
Description[?]:
| Private health care clinics are unethical as they provide a select few wealthy citizens with better, faster medical care. The resources of Telamon should be dedicated fully to creating a quick, efficient, free health care system. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Current: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Proposed: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:40:47, April 10, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | This does not have our support. Diversity and competition create a more effectual society. - Fieren Goldmark - Finance Minister (Radical Party) |
| Date | 00:48:51, April 11, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | We see no reason to ban private clinics. As it is, private clinics are heavily regulated by the state, and any patient unhappy with the private health care system is welcome to become a member of the state run one. Above all, our party believes in supporting as few state monopolies as possible to keep our free market operating efficiently. James Lott Chairman Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 13:59:53, April 11, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | This has our support. Vojislav Krkljus Head of RRP |
| Date | 18:17:59, April 11, 2008 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | This has our support also. |
| Date | 10:18:37, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | We find it a curious concern that the RRP would support communism. James Lott Chairman Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 12:18:21, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | It seems ironic, since previously the RRP used communist scares as a way of mustering up support for their nationalist causes. - Kristian Donson - Leader of the Radical Party |
| Date | 12:35:16, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | Lets get one thing clear. We said: "We would rather make a Government coalition with the USPP, than with the so called 'Liberal block.". We stay to this. We see this as a benefit to the people because we can have only the public health care, which saves money for regulating smaller and private clinics and that saved money can be invested in our public health care system which we know will function. Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 19:47:34, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | the RRP also on another USPP bill, to which they voted no, said "This will lead to communism which we do not want." We find it difficult to follow the flip-flopping politics of the RRP, and find it disgraceful that they would support communism simply because of personal grudges held against liberal parties of this nation. The DCD has striven to work with the RRP and other conservative parties since its inception 6 years ago, and has always been open to compromise. However, if the RRP's final decision is to take a stand supporting communism, the DCD will be forced to conclude that in a desperate power bid to regain control of parliament, the RRP has elected to forfeit the greater good of Telamon in order to press an agenda intended to advance only themselves. We will not work with, compromise with, or recognize any party, be it liberal or conservative, which has forfeited its allegiance to the people of our great Republic. James Lott Chairman Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 21:20:05, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | You DCD people obviously don't understand one thing: we won't accept any bill that proposes communism. We don't think this bill is communism. On that bill, yes, we did say that it will lead to communism and we don't want to vote in favor. The only thing we said that approves of the USPP is "We would rather make a Government coalition with the USPP, than with the so called 'Liberal block." Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 23:07:50, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | You do not want to support Communism, yet you will align yourself, and help promote an agenda, of a party that is openly socialist - nay, communist? This is hot ice indeed! The RRP is not worthy of its radical name. - Kristian Donson - Leader of the Radical Party |
| Date | 17:27:28, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the Public Health Care |
| Message | Oh, the Radical Party is a really stubborn and dull lot. We just say that it is better to have democrasy-socialism in the government than the libertarians who call themselves 'Radical'. Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 145 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 255 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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