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Bill: Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier

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Submitted by[?]: Alliance 44

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2560

Description[?]:

Let's make self-evident things clear.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/10/witaly210.xml

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These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date14:01:16, April 12, 2008 CET
From New Liberal Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageHahahahahaha, I've thought this for so long. Ugliness = Resentful personality = Leftism. Definitely support!

Date16:06:16, April 12, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageChauvinism/Homophobia = male insecurity = Rightism. We can all make connections. It's a shame the right aren't as good at managing the national budget as they are at passing judgment.

Date14:13:16, April 13, 2008 CET
From New Liberal Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageWe're saying left wing males are ugly too (although more often just fat), how can you call us chauvanists.

Date14:24:30, April 13, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageYou know, with THAT argument, you're just highlighting your own insecurities AND showing off the wonderful intellect of the right. They must be proud.

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,1,5376455.story?ctrack=2&cset=true

Date14:28:52, April 13, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageYou know, with THAT argument, you're just highlighting your own insecurities AND showing off the wonderful intellect of the right. They must be proud.

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,1,5376455.story?ctrack=2&cset=true

Date14:31:47, April 13, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageYou know, with THAT argument, you're just highlighting your own insecurities AND showing off the wonderful intellect of the right. They must be proud.

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10sep10,1,5376455.story?ctrack=2&cset=true

Date14:32:40, April 13, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageApologies for the multiple posting.

Date15:21:17, April 13, 2008 CET
From New Liberal Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageAlso, people attracted to left-wing politics tend to be very weak minded when it comes to dealing with emotions of envy. This envy then becomes rationalised into a meta-narrative of usurpation.

Marxism and radical feminism are good examples of meta-narratives of usurpation that attract the weak-minded, envious, self-loathing.... and physically ugly.

Friedrich Nietzsche called this poltical process Ressentiment. It is hilarious to think that Nietzsche's name is now invoked for left-wing political causes such as Marxism, feminism, multiculturalism and the queer movement.

Date17:06:00, April 13, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageA strive for rightful equality is far from being a meta-narrative of usurpation. It is the weak-minded who conform to societal ideology and thus allow themselves to possess the mindset that the straight white male is the superior social group. It takes strength of mind to break from that incorrect way of thinking. It requires some amount of intelligence to become disillusioned with the lies of the establishment.
I feel radical feminism in particular highlights male insecurity, as it challenges that ideal that the weak willed have allowed themselves to believe, the idea of woman as inferior to man. It forces the chauvinist male to face the limits of their own masculinity. There is no evidence to suggest that either is inferior/superior, society has simply conditioned people into that way of thinking. the weak minded will accept this, the intelligent will question it. To believe that this simply comes down to physical beauty, or lack there of, is extremely superficial.
I would not condone radical feminism or male chauvinism, they spur each other on, both are weak minded and insecure, they are oppositional extremes, as bad as each other.

Date18:37:52, April 13, 2008 CET
From Alliance 44
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
Messageradical feminism = total lack of sex appeal

it's a bit like Marxism or the IT business ...

Date19:19:27, April 13, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageYeah, depends how extreme though. Feisty women are attractive.

Date01:41:21, April 14, 2008 CET
From New Liberal Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageI was saying that the people attracted to these movements do so out of Ressentiment; that the weak protect their egos by forcing themselves to believe that they are not merely weak, but oppressed. They yearn for revenge narratives like "rightful equality", revolution or the last judgement.

We are happy this passed :)

Date16:36:27, April 14, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageYeah because the feminist movement was not formed out of oppression of any sort. Not having the basic right to vote is not oppression in your eyes? Or being forbidden to work? And I suppose you do not believe that homosexuals are oppressed either, in your eyes not being able to hold hands with your partner in public for fear of discrimination is not oppression? Or not having your relationship recognized on the same level as heterosexual relationships?
You are of course entitled to your opinion, just remember that that's all it is, an opinion, you'd be a fool to believe it as fact. If you want to talk about weak and insecure, examine where your own belief system stems from.
The weak protect their egos by allowing themselves to fall into a false sense of security that they are supreme. If, in their mindset (which is constructed on a belief of artificial social hierarchies) they are on top, so to speak, their ego is preserved and no one can be seen as a threat to this, being on a lower social level, in their eyes. For example, the male who is insecure in his own masculinity, allows himself to believe being a male places him on top of the social order,he then acts upon this, exerting his "masculinity", the result is chauvinism, thus boosting his ego. Feminists threaten this, the ego of the insecure male. Lets be fair, men naturally have bigger egos than women, apply this to what I just spoke of, and I think it explains male chauvinism, homophobia and also racism, some of the qualities of right wing extremists.
If right wing extremists weren't so, extreme, and unreasonable, then we wouldn't have left wing extremists. As already said, the two are oppositional extremes, as bad as each other.

Date14:39:13, April 15, 2008 CET
From New Liberal Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageBy talking about legal equality and female suffrage you are talking about liberal feminism. I was talking about radical feminism. Radical feminism is an ideology of Ressentiment, whereby weak women blame their weakness on oppression by the other, in this case males. The radical feminist resents the male their power.

Similarly, socialists are poor people who blame their lack of wealth on the oppression or "theft" of those who are richer than them: the bourgeoisie. The socialist resents the bourgeoisie their wealth.

There are still many laws that prohibit free acts by homosexuals, so the same logic doesn't apply for them. The NLP is a defender of basic freedoms for homosexuals.

The point is that most people are attracted to these Left-wing (or anti-establishment) movements out of Ressentiment of some kind or another.

If you are implying that we are insecure males, we suggest you try arguing the point rather than trying these feeble ad hominem attacks. Also, I know a large number of right-wing females who would be offended by your implying that females aren't right-wing, and a large number of right-wingers (OOC: this one included) that would be offended by your implication that right-wingers are sexist, racist and homophobic.

(OOC: In Australia it was the left that pushed racism and xenophobia, because it was based on the Labour Movement, which had an irrational collective fear that mass immigration from eastern asia would lead to losses of white Australian jobs. The right-wing party was the first to use affirmative action in its organisational structure. It established a women's council long before the left thought of becoming a female friendly, modern party, rather than a boys club of fat, bearded imbeciles.)

Date23:10:53, April 15, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Axiomal Resolution 2560: Left's women are uglier
MessageAd hominem attacks? Hardly. I am merely responding to your absurd claim that left wing politics stems from a web of weak mindedness and envy with a theory on where your own belief system stems from. There is much more to the left way of thinking, than an envious working class or discontented females.
I am not saying all females are left wing, clearly that isn't the case, I am merely offering my own theory on why I believe left wing women are attracted to left wing politics. Also, if you cannot see why many right wingers, or their beliefs could be seen as racist homophobic or sexist then you think in a very narrow-minded way.

(OOC: Australia is one example, I know in Ireland, the current centre-right party in power is the sole force prohibiting the right for homosexuals to obtain civil marriage contracts.)

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